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  • _TrueFacts
    09-04 07:54 PM
    Admins - can some one please close this thread. This is thread is neither about immigration nor will anything good come out of this.

    yetanotherguyinline,

    You may not care, but many members do care about what's happening in India.





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  • lahiribaba
    06-13 12:20 AM
    I am simply stumped at the level of comprehension of the folks right here. Let me summarize my views as points and hopefully I will get through to you guys

    1. My mention of BITS was not to prove that I was the best and the brightest. It was to prove that my education was NOT subsidized by the govt of India directly or indirectly. Remember passing out of any university doesnt confer the title of the best and the brightest. Unseenguy - If you have kicked the ass of IITians, bitsians etc then consider yourselves genuine. Why this unnecessary trip down "Not confident about myself lane" ?

    2. My mention of MSFT was again not to prove that I am part of the best and rightest. It was to prove that I came here not with the value proposition of low costs but with the value proposition of hardwork and some talent. I did not compromise on my pay or did replace any native employee. Oh BTW I left MSFT in 2000

    3. My mention of the 3 layoffs and my journey was to inform you guys that whatever is happening now is similar to whatever happened in 2001. I wanted to calm down the nerves of the genuine people. Without reading and comprehending the posts, I get responses like that I was an illegal. Remember I was taken back in for 2 days, 485/AP/EAD applied and my jobless days were with my EAD in hand.

    4. One of the reasons, I am against outsourcing companies is that they dump low wage workers. If you guys are aware, every country, including India and US, has anti dumping laws to protect local industries. I am not against offshoring or outsourcing but I am against dumping. Some posters have questioned how I would be affected by all this if I were the among the best and the brightest ? Valid question to a good extent. If you realize that as you age your speed and dexterity at which one adopts newer skills start waning. How long do you think that upgrading skills in a single industry would be possible when you are going to be constantly competing with walmart style options ?

    For now I have chosen to enroll myself in an MBA program and I am hoping that my skills wouldn't be diluted. Think about going to school at age 35 with the responsibility of family and kid. This is my last ditch effort in upgrading my skills because it involves a substantial ownpayment. I am not sure about you guys but a 100K investment for school now is huge for me. The big question is, I am able to pull up my last bit of energy to upgrade now but will it be possible 5 years now if these outsourcing companies starting dumping low cost MBAs ? This is what I meant by my quality of life being impacted. If you guys think that you wouldnt go through the same scenario, then you need some serious retrospection.

    One last thing I would like to point out the inherent contradiction that the current prospective immigrants are facing today. GC is a process that is there to fill in the lack of skills in the US. However with unemployment running close to 10%, the question arises as to whether to train local populace for these skills. There are just 2 exits out of this contradiction

    1. Bring in low cost labor to fulfill this shortage and avoid local training costs
    2. Expand on a new idea. Green seems to be the buzzword today.

    In my opinion, option 1 is lose lose situation for all including the actual foreign employee who provides the services at a low cost. It is the outsourcing company for sure and probably the hiring company that may benefit. The society as a whole loses. Option 2 is an organic option but is laen with the dangers of delays in take off and boom and bust cycles. This is exactly the reason why I suggested that we cut these outsourcing cs from dumping bodies here. I hope I have clarified my opinions lucidly and hopefully look forward to a mature discussion as opposed to name calling, affronts etc.


    look man wether anyone likes it or not fact is that jobs are going to two countries with a billion dollar plus population ... they are hardworking and they are verrrrrrrryyyyy hungry.... so even if you stop immigrants alltogether from coming to this country .. it does not matter. The jobs will simply go there (to China and India). After all the companies exist to serve their shareholders and not their employees and the simplest way to maximize profit is to cut cost. Simple!!! the outsourcing offshoring train has just started and there is no stopping it.

    You may argue to some extent that the complexity of your job will provide your protection but the fact is management is always scared off complex functions that require expensive resources (i.e human beings) .. management will always want to break down your job to lowest common denominator so that it can be shipped or done at lower cost. For that they will be willing to go all the way - including changing technology , buying into marketing BS or spending millions of dollars.

    Also if the american market dies is that going to be a very big deal ? not anymore .. the domestic market of both India and China is getting bigger everyday .. the fire has been lit and the horse has been left out of the stable .. its at a point of no return.

    So brace for the change because the times are a changing...





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  • indio0617
    05-11 10:04 AM
    nozerd:

    I just sent you a PM. Can you check ?





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  • Macaca
    01-18 08:16 PM
    I hope that this memo is not mis-used to affect the good apples, that's it.


    If employer can not directly control/supervise his employee's work and then H1B new petition/extension may not be approved.

    Why is an "apple" bad if employer does not direcly supervise him/her but good if employer directly supervises him/her?

    BTW, "apple" is not an Indian symbol. Moira Herbst considers curry as an Indian symol. But we can use "mango" if curry riles Indians.



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  • rahulpaper
    06-27 09:26 PM
    Based on this, I have again (yes, again) emailed by immigration lawyer and sent him the AILA's URL (although I cant see it coz I am not member of AILA).

    IF AILA reports that they stopped accepting new 485 petitions for EB3-other, then it is pretty freaking scary and that means that what my lawyer told me "I cant happen, bla bla bla..." is really not 100% accurate. If it happened in June, it can happen in July. This is now REALLLLY SCARY, coz my lawyer has plans for July-end for filing.

    Ever since the dates got current, it has been more stressful than the time when dates were retrogressed and almost makes me miss the retrogression days when I didnt have to depend on the lawyers for my career.

    It is indeed scary...I guess rumors can come to haunt us...I know that mine is not going in before mid july...we are seeing that is visible but doesnt exist...May be august bulletin (like predicted by USCIS) will still be "C"....GOOD LUCK to all. Irony of life is...all my life i gave exams in an effort to not get a "C"....and now all i pray for is just another "C"...





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  • cps060
    03-20 03:17 PM
    Hello Tito,

    Could you explain what is the Returning Resident Permit ? Who can apply for that ? Also are you suggesting that once you have that document, even after one's PR card expires, one can enter CA al long as the Returning Resident Permit is valid ?

    Also I asked this question even before .... Can a person whose PR is going to expire or going to be more than 3 years old .... can a fresh PR application be filed ?


    Hi, I experienced similar situation. This is what I did:
    Upon getting my PR and landing in Canada, I got job offer in the beautiful US. I kept visiting Canada every month, I kept bank account active there, I bought a car in Canada and transferred to the US (that was silly, don't do that) etc just in case I needed to prove certain ties to Canada and it would be transfer car to Canada again if I needed to go back.

    Then 1 year passed. I retained my PR just fine. However, when entering Canada, the immigration officer advised that I was going to end up losing my Canadian PR if I start going back and forth. At that point I applied for the Returning Resident permit. I wen to Canadian embassy in Seattle. Lady who attended me was very rude and told me that working in the US was not a valid excuse to stay out of Canada for 2 years. Then I claimed that I wanted to go back to Canada to open business there with my US experience within 2 years. Lady finally said "you guys don't love Canada, you just love the US". From there she signed the Returning Resident Permanent residency paper for 2 years. Now, five years have passed and I guess my Canadian PR status is unknown. I guess I could just return if I wanted. Last week I went there to visit a friend (it was raining like crazy in Vancouver, BC) and I entered the country without any questions. Therefore if you manage to get in, I guess all my PR status would still be valid.



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  • GCHope2011
    01-14 02:49 PM
    My friend gcdream 2001 please read through the whole article and understand that there is some action which needs to take place before i even open my mouth about any ideas.

    BTW the negentive count is now 3500.
    Sorry lady - enough of your billowing hot air - you have wasted enough people's time (including mine). If you have anything worth sharing you are free to do so - but I am not holding my breath for it.

    And of course, you can continue to be in your delusional world. You certainly have not demonstrated any credibility to be asking people to meet any "conditions" whatsoever.





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  • mnkaushik
    09-17 09:47 AM
    I know that many applied on March 05 just the week before Perm was going to start through the normal process and not RIR. I remember there was a way that they could abandon that application and apply thorugh the PERM process but keep their date. I know a friend of mine who did it. All these numbers suggested above makes sense only after we pass March 05.



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  • ramus
    07-03 11:01 PM
    http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/04/us/04visas.html





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  • unseenguy
    05-29 11:50 AM
    Yeah, but your 60k only includes AOS, not CP, right?

    There are very very few CP applicants from India.



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  • brahmam
    09-17 01:27 AM
    Here are the authentic numbers from FLCDataCenter.com (http://flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx)

    My analysis from those mdb files: (they are tricky because the data is for FY2005 while the priority date calculations we are doing are for the calendar year)

    calendar year 2005 ( received date between 3/19/2005 - 12/31/2005) = 8645
    year 2006 (rcv date between 1/1/2006 - 9/27/2006) = 15008

    after this it gets bad since the data has no receipt date, only certified date. my estimate is around 12000 for those 3 months of 2006.(total number of certified PERMs between 10/2/2006 - 03/31/2007 = 13873)

    total PERM approvals with PD between march 2005 and Dec 2006 ~ 37000

    If EB2 is 50%, we are talking ~19000, with an avg of 2.5 GCs per PERM, we need 47,500 GCs between Mar 05 and Jan 07.

    Good luck every one :(:D:mad:





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  • YesGC_NoGC
    06-26 12:55 PM
    Fact - My 485 has not ben filied yet, still on mercey of Employer after giving them all the paperwork. My PD was current for June filing.

    Rumour - The dates have been retrogressed already for July as USCIS already recd enough applications to fullfill the remaining visa number for this fiscal year. Also USCIS officers visited IV and could sense the number of applications that will pile up on July 1st hence they decided to retrogress and release the dates on Month to month basis.

    Does this make sense !!



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  • ramus
    07-03 08:51 PM
    Done..
    Thanks.



    Pleeeeeeeeease blog at Employment Based (EB) Skilled Immigration Applicants (http://boards.msn.com/MSNBCboards/thread.aspx?boardid=1042&threadid=314286&BoardsParam=HIPDelay=1&PostID=7628691)

    Please put details. 1 liners will not cut it!





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  • jsb
    06-02 12:43 PM
    Best wishes to you and sorry to hear this. I thought everyone was entitled to SSN after 10 years of work in the US.
    Do you need to have a green card before you qualifiy to get your SSN back?

    Better get it cleared. As far as I know, if you have earned 40 quarters (worked in the US for 10 yrs), you are entitled to get SSA at your retirement irrespective of your status. There are some exceptions, but for India/China citizens living in their home countries, they will get it. Of course, 25% non-resident tax will be cut at source.



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  • u.misc
    01-25 02:55 PM
    I thought we're not supposed to pay for H1 and GC. Correct me if I'm wrong? I guess we can only pay for the visa appointment fee.


    I came here in 1999, at that time employer was not bound to pay for H1-B expense. Later USCIS enforced the law and now most employer do pay for H1-B.

    However for GC, its the employer's discretion and there is no written rule as who should bear the cost fo GC filing. I paid for mine.





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  • amsgc
    12-13 10:08 PM
    It is surprising to me that some, so called high skilled, folks can be so blinded by their desire to get the green card that they are unable to see right from wrong.

    Never mind the pain of those affected by this inequitable system, or if this is technically legal, or whether it can be challenged in court. Think about what you are condoning – an unjust government policy that presumably works for you, now. By advocating an unfair policy today, in the long run you are undermining your own position as an immigrant in this country.

    You seem to be crying out loud - “I am a high skilled foreigner, but I am different, different from them! Look, look at my color, texture, please look at my passport. Oh no fuck that, please look at my place of birth. Skills? Yes we all have them, but let’s not get distracted. I am different - will you please look at my birth certificate, please?”

    Oh I hear ya. But all said and done, you will still be a foreigner to the average Joe on the street, even after you get your green card or naturalization papers. And if things go south, then those unethical policy makers, whom you give a pass today, will find a way to get you – and yes, that birth certificate will come handy. It is important to be united, and stay united.

    To say that the United States has the right to make any law with respect to immigration doesn’t make an unjust law right. Presumably you are well educated and can understand this. And speaking of education – was it your degree or birth certificate that you took to your job interview that set this process in motion? It is counter intuitive to have such a provision where, to begin with, it is your skills that enabled you to get in line.

    Apart from the resounding racial undertone, this policy is also harmful for the society at large. It encourages people to be conscious about their origins, be aware of their differences and the whole idea of America being a melting pot just goes down the toilet.

    I understand it is difficult for some to fight this unfair system, because first you may have to fight and win against your basic instincts. It is hard for us, but this attitude may make things harder for you in the future.

    Lets stay united and open minded, and fight for a fair system.



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  • angelfire76
    06-02 12:27 PM
    country quota is not racial discrimination...u must be a fool to say that.

    To change the country quota..they have to change the whole philosophy of immigration in this country... Equal opportunity for all...

    Its absurd to try to change the country quota..we must try for recapture..instead..

    The US immigration system is the only immigration system which has per country quota, last time I checked. If you are arguing equal opportunity then denying somebody from applying for permanent residency because on their country of origin is denying equal opportunity.

    In fact the per country quota actually violates the philosophy of equal opportunity by providing benefits to people who entered much later into the game and ignoring people waiting for the same benefits, just because they are from a particular country.

    If they were really interested in "equalizing" the ethnic mix of employees in the country, they shouldn't have made H1B dual intent or they should impose this 7% at the H1B level (I don't want to give anybody bright ideas considering the witch-hunt of H1Bs going on now).





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  • jsb
    06-05 03:49 PM
    I guess many have mentioned this before.

    Diversity should not be based on "country" as well. For example I can easily say that "India" has to be considered as "20 different countries", if it divided based on diversity. And probably many of the europian countries combined should be "1 country".

    Means if the diversity quota is 100 per year, to call for proper diversity.....
    2000 for India...
    100 for many of the european countries combined....

    (Note: I didn't mean "ALL of europe", I know that whole Europe is pretty diverse as well...)

    Country based "diversity" doesn't make sense at all.

    We are not discussing justifications of US laws. We are trying to find ways within the existing laws, for speeding up our cases.





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  • shiankuraaf
    07-21 08:36 PM
    Its fine so long as they are back before their AP expires.

    Thank you so much.. I really appreciate that.





    matreen
    02-13 12:53 AM
    I think the entire community should align behind Administrative reforms with a laser-focus. This initiative is a digression.

    IV has had it's own share of success with it's approach. No other methods have succeeded so far .

    Also, from my little IV volunteering experience I can vouch that our community has very high inertia and is difficult to organize. people are afraid to send letters to president...good luck in getting them to sue USCIS.

    community does not have the bandwidth to take multiple initiatives.

    I see no wisdom in doing this. USCIS/DOS can screw us worse , if they wish to . This is not being timid but being pragmatic...anyway the bravado talk also needs to be followed up by multiple clear paths to victory.

    How long do you think we are going to live like this, without hope. CIS already screwing us...what else to afriad......I disagree with CHMUR...





    GC_ki_daud
    07-29 04:17 PM
    I have

    EB2 140 Approved Feb 2006

    EB3 140 approved June 2004

    My Lawyer says that when they filed my 485 in July 2007, they sent both 140 petitions. IS THAT POSSIBLE ?

    Now that the dates got current in Aug 2008 bulletin , I asked them to proceed further so that my case could be adjudicated.

    They suggested me to wait and see since ,now, my original EB2 is current anyways.

    My question is, Is there any way to find out which category (EB2 OR EB3)will USCIS consider my 485 case to be ?

    Should I request lawyer to send a petiton now or wait ? PLease suggest a course of action



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