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  • lotsofspace
    02-13 11:26 AM
    I understand that per country cap is painful for certain countries. But i think they want the employment based immigrant community to be as versatile as possible. I have never heard someone complaining about the DV program where certain countries are not allowed to participate. The reason behind is that they want people from all over the world not just from certain parts of the world.

    What part of "Diversity Visa" don't you understand ? The objective there was and is "DIVERSITY" and therefore it make sense (albeit a limited one).

    Why should there be a restriction based on COB for employment based visas ? Do you think the Govt can dictate companies to recruit only so many people from different demographies ? I guess not.

    Thank God there is no such restriction on H1.

    I know it sucks for guys from ROW to be treated on par with ICMP quartet. But is only fair to be treated equally at least in EB categories.

    As many have suggested before, this removal of quota in it self will not solve the immigration problem. But is is fair and equitable in my opinion. And the opinion generally is different based on what side of the fence you are on. Recapture and increase of the annual limit to a more reasonable number is the correct solution.

    Although it may be kind of wishful thinking from the ICMP quartet to get this per country limitation removed, I personally feel the odds of that happening or very low. So guys from ROW, please chill. You are probably alright. Removing the world hunger is the right thing , but that is not going to happen. Some people continue to eat mud cakes to kill the hunger (This is a true story. I read an article recently).


    Most problems in the past have been resolved by not improving/patching the current system/source but by paradigm and systematic shifts. The root of the problem at the conceptual level is the demand for these visas from these countries. If the India and China continue their current growth rate for the next decade, they probably don't need this many visas :) who knows :).
    But for now this is a problem for all of us who are struck in this nightmare.





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  • grupak
    12-13 11:25 AM
    Discrimination in employment based on nationality is not allowed. However, can we extend the argument to the employment based immigration? We can always choose to take that promotion though we will lose our place in the queue.

    Leaving the question of fairness aside, under the current legal framework my guess is we do not have a case.





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  • garybanz
    12-14 04:37 PM
    Simple. If it wasn't for that ceiling the vast majority of the visas will go to applicants from the oversubscribed countries. Now this is not a bad thing if the visas are in unlimited supply. But since that's not the case, the country ceiling ensures that even people from smaller nations will get an equal oportunity to claim a visa before all the visa are grabbed by their BIG brothers and sisters. And what's more what ever is left is given back to the oversubscribed countries.

    How can you call that unfair? Is it fair to deprive a person from a smaller country, equal chance to have go at his GC?

    "equal chance to have go at his GC"

    I don't have an issue with equal chance...thats exactly what i am asking for.





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  • jungalee43
    11-08 02:57 PM
    Sent e-mails to all the contacts. Immediately received some out-of-office auto replies. Looks like they would be out of office till Nov. 6 or Nov. 10.
    Next up, posting message on change.gov



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  • lazycis
    02-14 05:17 PM
    Another prove of government misconduct is violation of regulations

    In addition to the aspirational 180-day deadline in 8 U.S.C. � 1571(b), the 8 C.F.R. � 103.2(b)(18) sets forth a detailed timetable for “withholding adjudication of a visa petition or other application if . . . an investigation has been undertaken involving a matter relating to eligibility or the exercise of discretion . . . .”

    I doubt these regulations were followed in thousands of delayed I-485s.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=223449&postcount=3

    We have also over a hundred WOM rulings were court acknowledged that the USCIS "unreasonably delayed" adjudication of applications. Moreover, the USCIS intentionally pushed people to go to court

    http://bibdaily.com/pdfs/Mocanu%201-14-08.pdf

    "For reasons stated at the hearing and in this Memorandum, I have reached a tentative conclusion that Defendant USCIS, overwhelmed by these applications, has adopted a strategy of favoring delay by litigation, instead of developing an orderly and transparent administrative resolution. Although this strategy is often evident in private party damages litigation, it is improper in these cases."





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  • poorslumdog
    09-04 12:51 PM
    You moron coming from the slum region or any other place in Bihar.
    You don't know about keralites.
    100% Literacy.
    Living standard is same like Europe. (no other state have the facilities such as health care and standard of living like Kerala).
    It is God's own country.
    Visit and see the details.
    Even the guys working in Gulf countries knows better than you and making much more than you. Go and see their houses.(multi storied), You are still in an appartment.
    Do you ????


    Mr.Nair tell me is it Gulf or Gelf. Do you still wear lunky in office or smoke peedi...enda peedi malabar pedi, enda CM EK nayar...he he :D

    If its GOD own country...what are you doing there. Are you renting it mr.Nair

    by the way how is omana kutty.



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  • alisa
    02-18 11:49 PM
    I think we can make some very credible and good arguments for ourselves.

    a) The changing demographics require an increased level of immigration. It is upto this country to decide if it wants semi-skilled immigrants (Indian cooks and gardeners) and their siblings/parents, or high-skilled immigrants.

    b) It is not really the smartest thing in the world to bring people here from foreign lands, let them work here in high-tech fields, and then send them back after 6-10 years so that they can compete against Americans from OUTSIDE America.

    c) A lot of EB-based immigrants have been to American colleges and have graduate degrees. Again, see (b) above. Not the brightest idea to have this American-educated and trained high-skilled manpower forced to go back to India and China, the two main US competitors.
    Atleast, not if you are America.

    Bottomline is this. If there have been abuses of the system, and any system will be abused, then those need to be fixed. If there are loopholes, they need to be plugged (and people will come up with more loopholes.) But the USCIS should not throw the baby out with the bath water. Either this country values high-skilled immigrants, or it doesn't. The high-skilled immigrants need to know this, so that they can make decisions in their life. The incompetence of USCIS can't be the instrument of public policy making.





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  • morchu
    06-01 12:45 PM
    In a way the whole process have no logic.

    to list a few......

    Companies recruiting for a "permanent job" 10+ years in future !!!
    DOL making sure that this 10+ years future job doesn't replace any US citizen !!!
    DOL making sure that the salary is good for this "10+ years future job", using the current data.
    Ohh... and expecting the person to remain in the same/similar job and not receive much hier salary even after 15 years.
    DOS making sure "ethnic mix" by a "country based limit", so if "India" is divided into 100 different small nations, everyone of them will get GC really fast (even though they are all in same ethnic).


    These Employment verification letter RFE and same and semilar job requirement were not framed assuming it takes a person from India 10+ years to get a green card. There were framed assuming it takles 2 to 3 years to get a green card.



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  • Mount Soche
    02-14 01:09 PM
    Bestia,

    I am not fighting with you believe it or not - just that some things said on this forum are just downright nasty. FYI though.. the Congo WAS colonized and terrorized by the Europeans. Hear of the Belgian Congo?? I don't know about Sierra Leone though.

    I brought African countries not as scapegoats, but as examples of countries not colonized by Europeans. I didn't mean to insult anybody from Sierra Leone or Congo ;) But my point was that if there wouldn't be Europeans - there wouldn't be United States.

    Man... you can't bring some example, not to be accused of something... Come on guys.

    Happy Valentine's Day.





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  • Jerrome
    05-12 12:18 PM
    No, they know what's going on, everybody know it's not a picnic there in the North, I didn't say that they were un aware what was going on in the North, all i said they are fine where they are, please read what i said. It seems you are only looking at it from 1 angle.

    I'm not disputing what channel 4 reported, it's overwhelming for the govt to handle millions of IDP's and terrorists mixed up in 1 big bowl of soup. In any war situation there will always be cases of misconduct as it has happened in Iraq, Kashmir, Afghanistan etc.

    Oh and thanks for being sarcastic, it proves a lot.

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-8349680,00.html?gusrc=gpd

    I don't want to bring the Name LTTE in any context in this thread.

    Do i support removing LTTE, Yes with full heart.

    Do i support the way SL is conducting this war, NO.

    Does my opinion matter, NO.

    Can i express my opinion, Hell YES.

    It is also not good for SL's Democracy because a dictator is in making for SL. Let me tell you this,after this war on terror is over, SL is going to be ruled by a dictator for a long time. wait and see. Again this is my humble opinion. If it is not going to happen i will be the happiest person.



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  • snathan
    01-17 10:02 AM
    Guys,

    We cannot sit idly and watch this developing story. We need to explore the possibility. How many are you ready for the fight?

    The Insightful Immigration Blog – Commentaries on Immigration Policy, Cases and Trends: NEW USCIS MEMO ON EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP FOR H-1B PETITIONS: IS IT A WAY TO KEEP CERTAIN WORKERS OUT? (http://cyrusmehta.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-uscis-memo-on-employer-employee.html)





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  • ufo2002
    05-11 02:04 PM
    I agree with jnayar here... but everyone keep in mind that no system is perfect. But the US employment-based system has serious flaws... especially in today's more globalised-based economy. The requirement that someone stays in the "same job role / same employer" throughout the green card process probably made sense back in the old days when people usually tend to work their entire lives for one company. Today, that no longer makes sense. Employers everywhere almost have worker turnarounds of 2 years on average. That means given the average GC process is about 6 years, you could be looking at someone potentially changing employers 3 times!
    Would anyone like to continue working on the same role/salary for 6 years, given that costs of living increase annually? Of course not.

    I know that Australia has a "job-based" PR process, but it doesn't bind you to one specific employer... so at least you do have the freedom to decide what job you would like to take on.

    The question of immigration to which country is better would probably yield one and the same answer based on the parameters that appear relevant to most people. However, the comparison of immigration processes and systems is an entirely different question - in theory, an employment based immigration system would be a lot better if it is based on correct assumptions. However, an employmet based system that ties an employee to the same job for the duration of the application process, and which requires that the same application processing be redone every time an employee changes jobs, while curtailing the maximum period of time the employee can work in the country is flawed. If the reasoning behind this is that the employee has to show that he/she is indespensible to that one job (with all the highly specific skills that come attached to the job description) which no US citizen/resident is qualified to do, should statistics not show that the majority of positions for which green cards were applied for and obtained have the same employee continuing in that role long after the said employee gets a green card? I would be very surprised if the numbers show that a significant number of employees stick around for any period longer than a year or so in their current, gc-approved roles (and by that, I mean the exact same role for which the GC was applied for - be it with the same company or elsewhere.). In a dynamic market for labor where "skillability" and "learnability" are much more important than current skills and learning, how important is the applicability of a person's current skills to a job that would anyway keep evolving or even changing altogether, during the 6 years of so that a person is employed in that capacity while waiting for the green card?

    Just my $0.02.



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  • grimreaper
    07-21 05:10 PM
    I've also been approached by Amway people both in the Bay Area and beyond. I despise their tactics and their deception as much as (or more than!) anyone.

    But let's not let it affect our community. Let's not let a few bad apples ruin that unmistakable bond we feel in America when we spot a fellow desi from afar. Now, any time I approach a desi to make a friend, I state in a jovial-yet-serious way, "don't worry, I'm not one of those Amway guys!" That's obviously not the first thing I say, but I make sure to throw that line in during the first minute or so of the conversation. If the fellow desi knows Amway, it gets a laugh, "oh, phew, that's a relief!" Once at an IKEA, I saw a desi who seemed to be following me. Turned out he wasn't following me at all. I asked him in a clearly joking tone, "Please tell me you're not with Amway!" He burst out laughing and we became friends (needless to say, he was not with Amway!).

    So why don't we all agree on a similar approach? If we meet each other in public, let's simply state that we're not with Amway. And if you're accosted, simply ask that person if they're affiliated with Amway. Plain and simple.

    How does this sound to others?

    Sounds like a good approach. I am going to use this line as a greeter in the future.





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  • BharatPremi
    07-11 12:48 PM
    BharatPremi,

    Same applies to you.. If you are so crazy about Bharat, what are you doing here.... HEHEHE. Just thought that it was kinda funny statement because of your name....BharatPremi --- :D

    My "Avtar Name" is "BharatPremi" not "BharatVasi" To do "Prem" you do not have to be "vasi":)



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  • gcisadawg
    06-12 10:54 AM
    Dude... he is talking about the second best engineering college in India that is located in Rajasthan.. aka - BITS Pilani (my guess).

    I think that is correct. As far as I know, during 80s and early 90s, BITS, Pilani was the second best after IITs.





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  • 485Mbe4001
    06-01 02:26 PM
    Generic lawsuits are not the answer. We should use the above information when we talk to the lawmakes and also use this as rebuttal to the anti's. Lets focus on recapture, venting is not going to help, lawsuits will only help make the lawyers richer(just look at the houses and cars of immigration lawyers ;))

    SSA depends on different countries. People from Mexico and Sweden for example will not have this issue. India does not have a treaty with the US.

    The only solution , to all our problems, is a LAWSUIT.
    The earlier some one has the balls to do it , the better it is.



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  • bestofall
    07-30 12:15 PM
    URGENT UPDATE: HR5882 scheduled for tomorrow - PLEASE CALL

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    House Immigration Sub-Committee is planning on mark up Congresswoman Lofgren's recapture bill tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon in her subcommittee. This is an extremely IMPORTANT development. We are hoping that an agreement reached such that there is no party line vote on this effort. As such all members are requested to PLEASE PLEASE call the following members on the subcommittee requesting them to support Lofgren's recapture bill H.R.5882.

    Majority Members (Democrats)
    Member Name DC Phone
    Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) 202-225-8203
    Howard L. Berman (D-CA) 202-225-4695
    Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816
    Maxine Waters (D-CA) 202-225-2201
    Bill Delahunt (D-MA) 202-225-3111
    Linda T. Sanchez (D-CA) 202-225-6676
    Artur Davis (D-AL) 202-225-2665
    Keith Ellison (D-MN) 202-225-4755
    Anthony Weiner (D-NY) 202-225-6616

    Minority Members (Republicans)
    Member Name DC Phone
    Steve King (R-IA) [Ranking Member]202-225-4426
    Elton Gallegly (R-CA) 202-225-5811
    Bob Goodlatte (R-VA) 202-225-5431
    Dan Lungren (R-CA) 202-225-5716
    J. Randy Forbes (R-VA) 202-225-6365
    Louie Gohmert (R-TX) 202-225-3035





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  • Kodi
    05-17 05:05 PM
    According to the latest news from Sri Lanka:

    1) All the Tamil civilians that were held hostage as human shields by the LTTE, have been rescued by the Sri Lankan army and have crossed over to safety.
    2) The LTTE have conceded defeat and said it is ready to surrender to a 3rd party.
    3)The whereabouts of Prabhakaran is not yet known but there is lots of rumors in the net saying that his body has been found and it is being investigated for DNA proof.
    4) The Sri Lankan army is still engaged in clearing out small pockets of LTTE that still remains.
    5) The whole island is celebrating with dancing in the streets, fire crackers and distributing Kiri-Bath (Milk Rice) which is cooked for very important occasions. And I wish I was there too !!!! :)

    So as you see it is all good!!!

    Same here. I wish I was there to join the celebrations.





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  • akottai
    07-22 02:10 PM
    When we moved from MN to NJ, we were so happy to find so many Indians around. In an Indian store I found a fellow native and I introduced myself. We were so happy that we found a good neighbor whom we can befriend. I gave them my number and got their number back. I never got any response from them whenever I called - ever. Later, I found the menace of Amway in these parts of world(among desis). I was so ashamed just by knowing that they mistook us for Amway people.

    I have been approached by many in Walmart, Macy's and other stores with questions like "are your from Mumbai?", "I have seen your somewhere"... types...

    At one point of time, it became very difficult to distinguish between a genuine smile and the e-commerce business smile! I can now understand why they never attended my calls! :)

    Anyways, I moved to NC - and no more Amways in this part. Not until now!





    shree19772000
    03-27 02:23 PM
    Love to see narendra modi as PM but I know that's far from happening. I would bet on LK for now.





    _TrueFacts
    09-11 10:46 AM
    Last nail in YSR’s coffin

    Jagan gets 3 choices: DyCM, mantri, PCC (http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/news/india/Jagan-gets-3-choices-DyCM-mantri-PCC/articleshow/4997385.cms)



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