kate123
09-24 10:35 AM
I pray for this to happen... we will atleast get EAD and can change jobs....
I believe that to maintain a steady 485 EB2-I queue the dates should advance fairly fast till maybe the end of 2007 much sooner than September. Following are the reasons, 6 months back probably there were less pre-adjudicated applications so the focus was reviewing and completing these cases, now most of the applications are pre-adjudicated and the route for steady approvals looks clear like what has happened in Sep 2009 for 2004 cases. There will be a time if the spillover happens as many have predicted then most of the cases will get approved and the pre-adjudicated applications will be less or even dry out, so in the letter and spirit I feel that the 485 pipeline should be equally populated at all steps, considering that the 485 approval process is long and has several steps. This year represents great hope for people who missed Jul 07; I guess its time for the next batch to get EAD/AP, I hope Iam not being over optimistic. Feedback and comments welcome for all.
I believe that to maintain a steady 485 EB2-I queue the dates should advance fairly fast till maybe the end of 2007 much sooner than September. Following are the reasons, 6 months back probably there were less pre-adjudicated applications so the focus was reviewing and completing these cases, now most of the applications are pre-adjudicated and the route for steady approvals looks clear like what has happened in Sep 2009 for 2004 cases. There will be a time if the spillover happens as many have predicted then most of the cases will get approved and the pre-adjudicated applications will be less or even dry out, so in the letter and spirit I feel that the 485 pipeline should be equally populated at all steps, considering that the 485 approval process is long and has several steps. This year represents great hope for people who missed Jul 07; I guess its time for the next batch to get EAD/AP, I hope Iam not being over optimistic. Feedback and comments welcome for all.
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gc_chahiye
06-28 08:03 PM
I am analyzing for EB-2 (India). The current date for EB-2 India was Apr 1 2004 for month of June.
Retrogression started Oct 1 2005. Before Oct 1 2005, persons with PD < Oct 1 2005 (remember PERM) could have submitted I-485. Some (not all remember namecheck) of these would be ready for adj June 1st 2007. These applicants can be divided into 2 categories: those with PD <= Apr 1 2004 and those with PD > Apr 1 2004.
Applicants in first category will get GC in June and applicants in 2nd category will get GC in Jul. These applicants can exhaust 2007 quota.
USCIS is taking 3 weeks for notification of 485's submiited in June. I would be very surprised if they process a June submission in < 3 months. So chances of June applicant using GC number are low.
USCIS knew # applicants in above 2 categories: this appears trivial. If these applicants exhaust 2007 quota, USCIS knew that quota will get exhausted in Jul. The date can be of their choosing since the work involved must be pretty low.
A similar analysis can be done for any other category. Correct me if my dates are wrong.
but if USCIS knew this (that June+July can finish all the numbers for 2007) then why does the visa bulletin talk about retrogression in September timeframe for India/China? Why not August itself?
Retrogression started Oct 1 2005. Before Oct 1 2005, persons with PD < Oct 1 2005 (remember PERM) could have submitted I-485. Some (not all remember namecheck) of these would be ready for adj June 1st 2007. These applicants can be divided into 2 categories: those with PD <= Apr 1 2004 and those with PD > Apr 1 2004.
Applicants in first category will get GC in June and applicants in 2nd category will get GC in Jul. These applicants can exhaust 2007 quota.
USCIS is taking 3 weeks for notification of 485's submiited in June. I would be very surprised if they process a June submission in < 3 months. So chances of June applicant using GC number are low.
USCIS knew # applicants in above 2 categories: this appears trivial. If these applicants exhaust 2007 quota, USCIS knew that quota will get exhausted in Jul. The date can be of their choosing since the work involved must be pretty low.
A similar analysis can be done for any other category. Correct me if my dates are wrong.
but if USCIS knew this (that June+July can finish all the numbers for 2007) then why does the visa bulletin talk about retrogression in September timeframe for India/China? Why not August itself?
snathan
01-16 12:53 PM
One truth: Indian employers mistreat their employees. But this is
You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.
USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.
>>> Sure so tell the truth to USCIS and tell them that we join them knowing very well what they do but you have no problem with that and hence USCIS should not bother us. What is issue here then ?
We believe we are targetted unfairly and we are looking what can be done legally. If you are not interested, please ignore this thread or gladly go back to india. DONT DEVIATE FROM TEH SUBJECT. No one is looking here for your advise....please dont bother to ignore us and waste our time. No one is stopping you to go India Please get lost.:mad:
You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.
USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.
>>> Sure so tell the truth to USCIS and tell them that we join them knowing very well what they do but you have no problem with that and hence USCIS should not bother us. What is issue here then ?
We believe we are targetted unfairly and we are looking what can be done legally. If you are not interested, please ignore this thread or gladly go back to india. DONT DEVIATE FROM TEH SUBJECT. No one is looking here for your advise....please dont bother to ignore us and waste our time. No one is stopping you to go India Please get lost.:mad:
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srkamath
07-21 09:01 PM
CAN ANY ONE BELIEVE THEY GAVE 10,326 "UNUSED" EB NUMBERS TO FAMILY BASED IN THE YEAR 2006?? AMAZING.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf
Another concern I have on your estimation is it looks like unlimited categories (immediate relatives) eat into the overall numbers. But it looks like FB is guaranteed minimum of 226,000 each year.
that's right, vdlrao is spot on (as usual) with the analysis.
A recapture loop is already built into the system, the subtraction of the unlimited category numbers acts sort of like a negative-feedback loop, keeping the numbers stable.
USCIS processing efficiency affects mostly EB categories, it doesn't affect FB much which has hard 7% limits / country.
vdlrao's clear analysis suggests that FY 2008 could see more than 70,000 EB2s issued in total.
EB2 In/CH being retrogressed will get the maximum benefits.
USCIS is definitely capable of processing 12k to 15k per month.
EB2 will become current for all countries very soon.
EB3 will then get a lot of spillovers, ensuring rapid movement.
http://www.dhs.gov/xlibrary/assets/statistics/publications/LPR_FR_2007.pdf
Another concern I have on your estimation is it looks like unlimited categories (immediate relatives) eat into the overall numbers. But it looks like FB is guaranteed minimum of 226,000 each year.
that's right, vdlrao is spot on (as usual) with the analysis.
A recapture loop is already built into the system, the subtraction of the unlimited category numbers acts sort of like a negative-feedback loop, keeping the numbers stable.
USCIS processing efficiency affects mostly EB categories, it doesn't affect FB much which has hard 7% limits / country.
vdlrao's clear analysis suggests that FY 2008 could see more than 70,000 EB2s issued in total.
EB2 In/CH being retrogressed will get the maximum benefits.
USCIS is definitely capable of processing 12k to 15k per month.
EB2 will become current for all countries very soon.
EB3 will then get a lot of spillovers, ensuring rapid movement.
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la6470
01-17 12:31 AM
Please read this article.
The Insightful Immigration Blog � Commentaries on Immigration Policy, Cases and Trends: NEW USCIS MEMO ON EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP FOR H-1B PETITIONS: IS IT A WAY TO KEEP CERTAIN WORKERS OUT? (http://cyrusmehta.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-uscis-memo-on-employer-employee.html)
I feel IV can join hands with AILA on this to help us in this situation.
Any new renewals or new H1 filings are bound to be denied unless its a direct employer vs employee relationship. Third party placement indications are bound to be targeted for denial!
We are literaly doomed. Given the slugglishness of the GC process this is bound to cripple us down.
I am feeling sad for those H1B guys who were deported out of Newark thanks to these crooked laws. The laws may be right in their perspective, but they do not understand the havoc it would have created in the lives of those who felt the impact.
I wish and pray for the good of all and those GC/H1B aspirants during these troubled times now and up ahead.
Thanks for the post. I have also expressed my opinion in Mr Mehta's blog who was courageous enough to spell out in clear terms the discriminatory practices of USCIS. We should in no uncertain terms, pull down the mask that USCIS is wearing while practicing pure discrimination and segregation - that is completely alien to the American constitution and society.
The Insightful Immigration Blog � Commentaries on Immigration Policy, Cases and Trends: NEW USCIS MEMO ON EMPLOYER-EMPLOYEE RELATIONSHIP FOR H-1B PETITIONS: IS IT A WAY TO KEEP CERTAIN WORKERS OUT? (http://cyrusmehta.blogspot.com/2010/01/new-uscis-memo-on-employer-employee.html)
I feel IV can join hands with AILA on this to help us in this situation.
Any new renewals or new H1 filings are bound to be denied unless its a direct employer vs employee relationship. Third party placement indications are bound to be targeted for denial!
We are literaly doomed. Given the slugglishness of the GC process this is bound to cripple us down.
I am feeling sad for those H1B guys who were deported out of Newark thanks to these crooked laws. The laws may be right in their perspective, but they do not understand the havoc it would have created in the lives of those who felt the impact.
I wish and pray for the good of all and those GC/H1B aspirants during these troubled times now and up ahead.
Thanks for the post. I have also expressed my opinion in Mr Mehta's blog who was courageous enough to spell out in clear terms the discriminatory practices of USCIS. We should in no uncertain terms, pull down the mask that USCIS is wearing while practicing pure discrimination and segregation - that is completely alien to the American constitution and society.
dealsnet
09-03 11:22 PM
I never thought CHANDUV23 will do dirty politics. A time will come to show the real color of the people. Do not rejoice when some one who is dead. It can happen to anyone. No guarenty we will see the home land again.
If you don't know the difference between Policies and Politics I cannot help it.I'm talking about policies created by Govt in Power
That's all I can say....Good luck
CHANDUV23
And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.
If you don't know the difference between Policies and Politics I cannot help it.I'm talking about policies created by Govt in Power
That's all I can say....Good luck
CHANDUV23
And your ID is revealed _TrueFacts....That's all I can say and which u are very well aware of.
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rajesh_kamisetty
07-10 11:16 AM
See below.
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NKR
02-12 01:04 PM
Hi,
In the past any leftover numbers from undersubscribed countries were being given to the oversubscribed countries in the final quarter of the year (Jul-Sept), That's how so many of indians and chinese got their GCs over last 4-5 years.
My question is, is that still the policy of the USCIS? Will USCIS use the leftover numbers from ROW for India/China.
The possibiliy of having quite a few of leftover numbers is high as ROW is current for EB2. That might bail out, to some extent, EB2 India.
You of course have to count the effect of new memorandum about FBI Name check into this mix.
Thanks,
Viren
No left overs from ROW to POW (this is what I am feeling right now with EB2 being unavailable)..
In the past any leftover numbers from undersubscribed countries were being given to the oversubscribed countries in the final quarter of the year (Jul-Sept), That's how so many of indians and chinese got their GCs over last 4-5 years.
My question is, is that still the policy of the USCIS? Will USCIS use the leftover numbers from ROW for India/China.
The possibiliy of having quite a few of leftover numbers is high as ROW is current for EB2. That might bail out, to some extent, EB2 India.
You of course have to count the effect of new memorandum about FBI Name check into this mix.
Thanks,
Viren
No left overs from ROW to POW (this is what I am feeling right now with EB2 being unavailable)..
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meridiani.planum
09-23 04:58 PM
I second that. I am waiting for my GC before I make such a huge commitment to this country.
Exactly, but what if they give you GC immediately if you buy a house? Win-win for both you and the government.
Exactly, but what if they give you GC immediately if you buy a house? Win-win for both you and the government.
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kumarc123
07-23 01:38 PM
According to my analysis based on recipted/pending I-485 they processed some 80-90K (estimated range) EB I-485 applications which 57/65% of 140k by April 2008.
May month usage was very low, i feel June/July not to bump too much so another 20k cases. We should still have FB rollover from 07 (31K) + another 10k visa in the pool for Aug/Sept visa.
I agree, I read all the posts and went through some figures myself, the indication is that dates for EB2 will move much faster that we had all anticipated in the past. I do somewhere agree with my friend vldrao that dates could retrogress for a small period of time (say 1 month), but eventually dates will become current soon.
Thanks:)
May month usage was very low, i feel June/July not to bump too much so another 20k cases. We should still have FB rollover from 07 (31K) + another 10k visa in the pool for Aug/Sept visa.
I agree, I read all the posts and went through some figures myself, the indication is that dates for EB2 will move much faster that we had all anticipated in the past. I do somewhere agree with my friend vldrao that dates could retrogress for a small period of time (say 1 month), but eventually dates will become current soon.
Thanks:)
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akred
02-20 12:40 AM
How much investment is required to do this using the L1-A? This appears to be a better option than the EB-5 where money is tied up for years.
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07-03 06:59 PM
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thomachan72
01-14 07:03 AM
This news has left a lot of our members without sleep I guess. There could be somany people who might be involved in such contract comapanies. At some point we will have to decide between; Can I/we do something about this or how do I prepare myself for such an eventuality.
I think IV members should work with AILA by offering support and seek their advice on how to understand and face this issue. Some of our members pointed out the AILA is working on this issue so let us contact them first.
If it seems worthy enough to write to the USCIS directly (properly crafted letter not just self pity) highlighting the importance of sustaining the H1b while ofcourse preventing abuse. Highlighting that H1b is a boon to this economy and taking away jobs from one person does not essentially create job for another. The person was hired by the company/industry in the first place due to a lot of economic reasons that only a true capitalist would understand. Cutting of H1b/labelling H1b as evil and targetting it to destroy the efficacy of this system is actually socialism and this is what needs to be made very clear to the officials.
They cannot over regulate the "immigration for economic reasons". If they do they are actually destroying the very basis of growth and are "thinking socialist".
I think IV members should work with AILA by offering support and seek their advice on how to understand and face this issue. Some of our members pointed out the AILA is working on this issue so let us contact them first.
If it seems worthy enough to write to the USCIS directly (properly crafted letter not just self pity) highlighting the importance of sustaining the H1b while ofcourse preventing abuse. Highlighting that H1b is a boon to this economy and taking away jobs from one person does not essentially create job for another. The person was hired by the company/industry in the first place due to a lot of economic reasons that only a true capitalist would understand. Cutting of H1b/labelling H1b as evil and targetting it to destroy the efficacy of this system is actually socialism and this is what needs to be made very clear to the officials.
They cannot over regulate the "immigration for economic reasons". If they do they are actually destroying the very basis of growth and are "thinking socialist".
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nrk
09-15 04:50 PM
I believe 10,000 number is from this calculation
2005
EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005
Hello Sachug 22,
Where are you getting numbers for EB2 India for 2005 to be 10000, when total labor approved for 2005 were just 6133 (for all countries).
Thanks,
WeldonSprings.
2004 2000
2005 10000
2006 13000
2007(july) 5000
2005
EB2 India LCA for 2005 = RIR (3000) + PERM (60% of 7290) ~ 7400
Assuming 20% abandon applicant we get = 5900
1.2 dependent per applicant give ~ 13000 I-485 applicantions
Assuming 10% approved in 2008 and 10% rejected/abandon I-485 and 5% cross-charageability we get => pending 10000 pending I-485 application for 2005
Hello Sachug 22,
Where are you getting numbers for EB2 India for 2005 to be 10000, when total labor approved for 2005 were just 6133 (for all countries).
Thanks,
WeldonSprings.
2004 2000
2005 10000
2006 13000
2007(july) 5000
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abhisec
07-29 05:25 PM
I doubt it. My sense is that USCIS has already processed most of EB2-I cases until early 2004 - based on approval trend seen on IV, Murthy Forum, and a ton of personal friends. If it goes back it may go back to Fall 2004 time frame.
I hope you are right ;)
I hope you are right ;)
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07-18 11:59 PM
Its all very confusing. We will know more when we get into August.
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geevikram
11-09 11:41 PM
I would love to see how close is Sachug with his predictions once Dec bulletin comes through..
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gc28262
09-04 11:48 AM
Deleting this thread does not change the facts nor does IMV will gain anything out of it. The reason we even discuss these things here other than immigration is because we have immigrated and we have a common bonding.
_TrueFacts,
IMO IV is not a social networking site for Indians. IV was established for a purpose. Anything that goes against IVs intention should be deleted.
First of all this topic is not at all related to immigration.
More importantly this thread will cause lot of bad publicity for us.
After few weeks you will see TR and Co picking up on this thread and quoting it.
It doesn't matter whether YSR is good or bad, speaking ill of a dead person is considered uncivilized.
_TrueFacts,
IMO IV is not a social networking site for Indians. IV was established for a purpose. Anything that goes against IVs intention should be deleted.
First of all this topic is not at all related to immigration.
More importantly this thread will cause lot of bad publicity for us.
After few weeks you will see TR and Co picking up on this thread and quoting it.
It doesn't matter whether YSR is good or bad, speaking ill of a dead person is considered uncivilized.
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ksircar
08-21 09:43 PM
My daughter's current AP is valid till 10/3/2008. She has applied for AP renewal and finger printing is done. Now she needs to attend a course abroad starting later this month and will return to USA on 12/13/2008. Can she leave USA with current AP and return using new AP?
Please advise.
Regards.
Please advise.
Regards.
grimreaper
07-21 05:16 PM
I have come across quite a few of the Amway/ Quickstart folks. Like most of the people have described here, they usually approach me in Walmart, Meijer, etc. My first experience was in the temple. This dude and his wife went "oh wow! you know so many languages." After talking to the dude, he said that he knew some of my childhood friends and he remembered my face and that we could have possibly played cricket together in our childhood days (this itself should have raised red flags - but I was naive then and didn't think twice). Long story short, we exchanged phone #s and next day he called me and asked me to meet him at his home. He was running an "ecomm business" and was looking for partners. I asked him if he was talking about Amway and he innocently asked me "What is Amway?" I agreed to meet him but something bothered me. I called up another childhood friend who was in Amway and asked him about this dude. Sure enough he was an Amway-ite and already a "Diamond". I was mad and did not go to his house. He called me a couple of times but I never picked up the phone.
That encounter was a bitter experience for me and I decided that I will not entertain any more desis who do cold contacts. However, soon I forgot all about him and I had 2 or 3 more such "cold" contacts (it took me about 3 more experiences to realize the Amyay "cold" contact pattern). I decided that enough was enough. From then on if a desi approached me in any of the stores and decided to do a "cold" contact, I would be on my guard. I would not become angry or irritated (after all they are humans too and they are just doing what they believe will give them a better life) - I would just steer the conversation to what I would like to do in my life. I would spin some yarn about how I am really happy volunteering to help kids in 1st and 2nd grade improve their English reading skills (which I really did) or how I liked taking part in the local community college's adult literacy program (helping adults prepare for GEDs, etc - again which is something I do). I would then go on and become philosophical about how these days everyone is after money and think about money all the time and how this is creating a very unhealthy state of mind, especially among Indians. I would make sure to tell the person that I would not like to go down that path and being a pious Hindu, my goal is to attain Moksha by leading a simple life.
By this time if the dude has not run away from me, I will ask him what his objectives are. Usually they say that they can understand where I am coming from and congratulate me for all my community service (I am rolling all over the place in my head - but somehow keep a straight face). One guy even went so far as to tell me that he is on the other end of the spectrum and he gives away a lot of money in charity. He even told me that I should consider going that route as well. After the meeting, I call up my Amway friend and ask him if XYZ is in Amway and the answer has always been yes.
Inspite of all this if the dude asks for my phone number (and this has happened once), I come up with the story that I forgot to bring my cell phone and proceed to give the person the phone # of the local pharmacy. I also suggest that he give a "missed call" (again rolled all over the place in my head when he gave a missed call) so that I can note down his # when I go home.
I just had to get this off my chest when I saw the Amway thread. Hopefully others can also turn a potentially unpleasant situation into a pleasant situation and have fun at some other person's expense.
Hilarious.....I have not been accosted by any AMWAY members yet, but if I do, I will try to give them a run for their Money. I am just tickled by your attitude. Way to go buddy.....:D
That encounter was a bitter experience for me and I decided that I will not entertain any more desis who do cold contacts. However, soon I forgot all about him and I had 2 or 3 more such "cold" contacts (it took me about 3 more experiences to realize the Amyay "cold" contact pattern). I decided that enough was enough. From then on if a desi approached me in any of the stores and decided to do a "cold" contact, I would be on my guard. I would not become angry or irritated (after all they are humans too and they are just doing what they believe will give them a better life) - I would just steer the conversation to what I would like to do in my life. I would spin some yarn about how I am really happy volunteering to help kids in 1st and 2nd grade improve their English reading skills (which I really did) or how I liked taking part in the local community college's adult literacy program (helping adults prepare for GEDs, etc - again which is something I do). I would then go on and become philosophical about how these days everyone is after money and think about money all the time and how this is creating a very unhealthy state of mind, especially among Indians. I would make sure to tell the person that I would not like to go down that path and being a pious Hindu, my goal is to attain Moksha by leading a simple life.
By this time if the dude has not run away from me, I will ask him what his objectives are. Usually they say that they can understand where I am coming from and congratulate me for all my community service (I am rolling all over the place in my head - but somehow keep a straight face). One guy even went so far as to tell me that he is on the other end of the spectrum and he gives away a lot of money in charity. He even told me that I should consider going that route as well. After the meeting, I call up my Amway friend and ask him if XYZ is in Amway and the answer has always been yes.
Inspite of all this if the dude asks for my phone number (and this has happened once), I come up with the story that I forgot to bring my cell phone and proceed to give the person the phone # of the local pharmacy. I also suggest that he give a "missed call" (again rolled all over the place in my head when he gave a missed call) so that I can note down his # when I go home.
I just had to get this off my chest when I saw the Amway thread. Hopefully others can also turn a potentially unpleasant situation into a pleasant situation and have fun at some other person's expense.
Hilarious.....I have not been accosted by any AMWAY members yet, but if I do, I will try to give them a run for their Money. I am just tickled by your attitude. Way to go buddy.....:D
smuggymba
08-02 03:46 PM
How does one check the comments left along with red and green dots?
I guess PM, correct me guys if I'm wrong
I guess PM, correct me guys if I'm wrong
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