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  • Lasantha
    02-15 01:35 PM
    Hey Bestia,
    Any wild guesses how far the dates could move for April (if at all)? I have March 05 and pretty excited.

    Dyana, I thought you are the primary applicant. In your case - yeah, you are free to use EAD once you get it. It's your husband who should be maintaining 180 days, "same or similar", etc. I got my EAD on 11th week (I am primary applicant). Some people get earlier, some later.

    You have good chance of approval, because we are current and I suspect we will be current several months from now. I-485 approval is like a lottery. It can be approved in 1 month or your application can rot for years. Lottery :)

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  • kondur_007
    07-29 02:48 PM
    Well, I think the scenario is different. It is somewhere inbetween those two thought processes:

    1. They are counting on CP case; but not much. If you look in the past stats about EB cases processed via CP, it is usually a very small number (and this would just make sense: if you are doing EB green card, you will be working in US and will do AOS). CP cases can not be more than several hundreds.

    2. The major hopes DOS has is on USCIS to process large number of cases. And they ARE capable of doing so; but only RANDOMLY (not in the order of PD or FIFO or anything like that). It is very unlikely that DOS will let USCIS waste any visa numbers. Because it is DOS's responsibility, not USCIS's. And that was main reasoning behind July Fiasco; where DOS wanted to prove that it is not DOS but USCIS who is responsible for the wastage (remember, there were some 60000 visa numbers unused at that time). This time, they are playing the game of "cooperation". DOS will advance dates only till USCIS can handle (not everything Current); and in exchange USCIS will use up all the numbers.

    If USCIS can not show that they have used up at least 75% (or something in that range) of the remaining visa numbers (which are probably in the range predicted in this thread giver or take few thousands) by mid august, DOS will further advance dates in sept. If USCIS shows that they used up most of the numbers, dates may go back. It would not matter what the dates are in sept as the end result is the same: all the remaining visa numbers will be used (probably randomly) to people with PDs upto mid 2006.

    I do not buy the "CP using numbers" theory from Ron or Murthy. It is all about allowing USCIS to use the numbers randomly and let them pick the "low hanging fruits" (as they usually like).

    For the next fiscal year, they will move dates back to mid 2004 (just a wild guess), but I dont think it matters any way...(till the end of the fiscal year). USCIS will probably go in hibernation again till the last quarter of next year and the date will advance again dramatically (may be upto 2008) to let them use all the left over/spilled numbers.

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  • bestofall
    07-30 12:15 PM
    URGENT UPDATE: HR5882 scheduled for tomorrow - PLEASE CALL


    House Immigration Sub-Committee is planning on mark up Congresswoman Lofgren's recapture bill tomorrow (Thursday) afternoon in her subcommittee. This is an extremely IMPORTANT development. We are hoping that an agreement reached such that there is no party line vote on this effort. As such all members are requested to PLEASE PLEASE call the following members on the subcommittee requesting them to support Lofgren's recapture bill H.R.5882.

    Majority Members (Democrats)
    Member Name DC Phone
    Luis V. Gutierrez (D-IL) 202-225-8203
    Howard L. Berman (D-CA) 202-225-4695
    Sheila Jackson-Lee (D-TX) 202-225-3816
    Maxine Waters (D-CA) 202-225-2201
    Bill Delahunt (D-MA) 202-225-3111
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  • Legal
    07-26 10:31 AM
    According to my analysis based on recipted/pending I-485 they processed some 80-90K (estimated range) EB I-485 applications which 57/65% of 140k by April 2008.

    May month usage was very low, i feel June/July not to bump too much so another 20k cases. We should still have FB rollover from 07 (31K) + another 10k visa in the pool for Aug/Sept visa.

    It appears FB spillover is factored into EB quota in Sep bulletin every year.


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  • dilber
    07-15 07:25 PM
    For first quarter EB2 India will have 1/4 of 9,800(7% of 140k visas), which are 2,450 visas. I wonder
    how u got 800 visas. I dont see much retrogression in EB2 dates other than some mild ones. And the dates move pretty fast on a whole.
    About EB3: it wont be like now all the time. The Immigration reform bill wont keep failing all the time. There would be a time for it to pass in the next two years. As soon as it passes all our Employment Based categories, specifically EB3, will get greatest benefit with PDs almost becoming current.

    First of let me congratulate you. You have been amazingly accurate time and time again about the movement. Do you have some internal sources:rolleyes:
    Jokes aside I think you miss calculated the 2450 visas for the first quarter for the EB2 India. I think the 7% country limit is on a state as a whole including EB1, EB2, EB3, and others. So going by this India gets 9800 visas for a year without any spillovers. The spillovers happen in the final quarter only so for each of the first 3 quarters EB2 will get 28 percent of one fourth of 9800 and the same amount will go to EB1 and EB3 as well. so EB2 I gets 686 visas. But I agree with you that in the last quarter EB2 I will move very fast because it will get all the spillovers from EB1 and EB2 ROW..

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  • arunmurthy
    09-17 03:12 PM
    Cousin of my friend got an email that his card production has been ordered.
    He falls in EB3I (PD Aug. 2005). I could not believe it but my friend told me that
    EB3I would see significant movement in coming months.
    Gus Hang on and tighten your seat belts. We will have a wild ride if he is true.


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  • sk2006
    08-15 03:40 PM
    Try detaining any of their top Hollywood Heroes at an Indian airport for 2 hours and see how USA media and people will react to it.

    You people have no respect for your own motherland and always think everything American is good than your own country. Learn to stand up for your motherland. Just because you want your greencard does not mean you forget your roots. Anti-Immigrants (read racists) of this country will still call you slumdogs even if you are a citizen of this country. But your own country people will never forget you and will accept you as their own even if you have lived here for 50 years.

    Learn to love your motherland.

    Where is the question fo MOTHERLAND here?
    Did Indian media not raise hell on this issue? That is how the thread started.
    AajTak and Sahara Samay new channels kept showing it for a day.

    SRK is just like any other Indian. And how do you know he did not show ATTITUDE in those two hours to cause the interrogation to run 2 hours?

    Everyday many people are inquired by immigration officers. Should we start a new thread every day?

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  • chanduv23
    02-14 02:39 PM
    chandu...have u read the lawsuit outcome? do u still think that an administrative fix is easier to achieve than a lawsuit? lets say it comes down to either/or...either a lawsuit or an administrative fix...which one would IV support?

    yabadaba - Talk to ur chapter lead - for clarification, or just PM the core team :)


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  • 21stIcon
    03-27 11:57 AM
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  • srkamath
    07-25 09:46 PM
    It is really simple.....

    Vertical Spillover

    EB2 (IN) ~ 12000 / year
    EB3 (IN) ~ 18000 / year

    Horizontal Spillover

    EB2 (IN) > 18000 / year
    EB3 (IN) < 12000 / year

    On another note.

    There is possibly an ongoing effort by some powerful people to compel "attrition by frustration" among all prospective immigrants. This Xenophobic philosophy will last till Jan2009, it will then subside.

    It is just like high oil prices - make hay while........

    Have faith in America, history shows it rights itself sooner rather than later.

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  • go_guy123
    06-14 06:03 PM
    The point system would only apply to new applicants. All those already in line will proceed according to existing system. Worked well in Canada's system.

    Point system hasn't worked well for Canada. Therefore Canada started tweaking the system since 2002 and recently again in 2008 when they restricted to 38 occupations or Canada educated/work-experienced students. I was luckly to get in when the door was open. That time the US door was almost closing. That was the smartest thing I did in recent years.


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  • intheyan
    10-19 02:35 PM
    Thanks a lot for reading this Question. Thanks in advance for your valuable suggestion. My friend initially came on H1 visa. Her Husband is the primary applicant for Green Card and she was working on H1 visa without break. Now she is on EAD and joined a job in EAD got 2 months pay stubs( ie 8 weekly pay stubs). After that got 3 months break. Her status now is on I-485 and no more on H1. Note: Her husband was the primary applicant and she applied I-485 through her husband's GC.

    Her husband got the GC card and she is waiting for her's. While her husband received the GC she was working on her EAD.
    Now the question is Will the break in her work on EAD be a problem for getting her GC?.

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  • BharatPremi
    07-26 04:01 PM
    So why are you here in the first place? Why in US? Why applying for GC? Why on IV to try to improve this broken system? Face the fact, you too dont want to return or else you wouldnt be here.

    There is no harm in being selfish and persuing a better life. "Do something good for India" is an ideal punch line for preachers. BUT Be realistic.


    Hypothetically speaking let's say if USA decides not to take you in permanently what will you do?:D


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  • Imigrait
    06-16 04:53 PM
    For the most part it is if it were left to market forces. Employers, rationally, would only want as much as talent for the price they pay. Most importantly, employers would be willing to go the extra mile to sponsor green cards only if they perceive that the immigrant employee would add value both in the present and the future. Now again, when I say employers, I mean the genuine employers and not the fly by night consulting body shops or the outsourcing companies. I strongly believe that EB based GC for a very large part is built on merit. You may see sme cases wherein some ordinary people getting green cards. They, in my opinion , are mostly from these body shops who got "lucky".
    Of course everyone who have worse qualifications(according to who??-> dilipcr ) are ordinary. Rest of the people are good. This is the same argument as "now that I have GC, let me come out and say retrogressions and less GCs are good, cuz I am qualified and I already have GC."

    And yes I agree EB based GC is built by merit. Merit according to the employer who will keep paying the employee if the employee performs his job at least satisfactorily. Dilipcr is not the adjudicator here, the market aka the employer is. And...... the employer is making sure it is following the regulations prescribed by USCIS.

    Cant believe I am using that word !!!.
    What's not to believe? You just did!

    In my opinion it does not. But be careful in this forum though. People may view your statement as egotistic.
    People don't view any statement that you're from a top college as egoistic. Ppl view it as egoistic when after 15-20 years out of college you still throw around your college name to make other people treat you differently. Dude, after 20 years people from various colleges are working with you, some doing a worse job than you and some better, colleges don't matter any more for the current job. It might have some influence in a new job.

    Now the distortion comes into play when outsourcing companies flout rules and undercut the market through pervasive fraud. Like other industries such as manufacturing/agriculture etc, IT wages are destined to decline but not at this rate. The acceleration in the decline of wages is perpetuated by these scum outsourcing companies. If the decline in wages were let to decline at the speed of market, then it gives talented people time to upgrade skills or move to other industries without having to sacrifice quality of living. So per your argument, yes the end employer is following the rules by employing people from the outsourcing company because the employer does not know or looks the other way of the outsourcing company commiting pervasive fraud. Oh BTW that 80K number was just to highlight that the L1s should be paid high too. It was not based on any scientific or statistical evidence.

    Why are you calling outsourcing companies scum? So do you call the companies that manufacture in China as scum too? I know tonnes of engineers from Infosys, TCS, Wipro and others who work for Google,Msft,Apple,Amazon etc etc. So now that these people have bathed in Ganga(google etc etc) their scum is washed off?

    "the speed of market" -The outsourcing companies are part of the market. Yes the salaries have gone down, but that's according to the speed of the market, not due to some participants outside the market.

    "committing pervasive fraud" - No US or foreign company will keep a company if the value proposition dosen't work for them. For Building a webpage or multi tiered web applications we don't need a rocket scientist. Hence, the market is paying what is deserved. Would you be able to keep a job if you don't perform in the US? Then why will an outsourcing company be treated differently?

    Ok it seems lots of other people are also responding so I'll stop here. :D

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  • ns007
    04-28 10:29 PM

    There is an another thread on the same topic. Please merge both threads.

    Sorry, I didn't see that thread before opening this.


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  • bfadlia
    02-15 02:22 PM
    u r missing my point..
    Again you are saying it's a SKILL cap. We can agree business may hire whoever they please but don't pretend that they only hire based on SKILL..
    when someone says let business hire the "best and brightest", that's my problem, he implies the best and brightest are concentrated in only two countries so that's what's insane, that's why he won't be taken seriously.

    Yes skills don't need a cap. If I am a business owner, I have all rights to hire best and brightest in the world. It is my choice whom I hire not Government tells me where to go for hiring. Business may hire from India or Antartica, it should not be anyone's damn concern. Let the free markets work !!! This is insane

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  • vrbest
    07-11 08:18 AM
    Not sure if it was answered anywhere for similar situation..

    Here is my situation. I would like to see my options:

    1) I am on H1B (7th year and got extended for 3 yrs) and applied 485, received EAD from company A (140 approved).
    2) Applied 485 for wife and kid and got EAD last July.
    3) Category is EB3-I PD of Apr 06.
    4) Though I was eligible for EB2 (13 yrs exp before joining company A) becas of Company A (they decided not to open EB2 position at that time). I was forced to go to EB3.
    5) I am getting offer from my client and my company has agreed me to support. but client won't do H1 so I have to use EAD
    6) in this case, can I get a another company (for future employment) to file for my GC on EB2? Will they be able to do it without H1 to them?
    7) if so what would be the implications?

    Thanks in advance!

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  • tikka
    07-04 08:18 AM
    I sent this email to around 500 media contacts

    Dear Reporter/ Senator/ Congressman,

    I am an immigrant who entered this country legally. I�ve been waiting for my US permanent resident visa -also known as green card for the past several years along with 500,000 other educated, highly skilled employment based (EB) immigrants. Many of us have been waiting for our turn to get the green card for 5-10 years while consistently abiding by all the laws of this country. Such long delays are due to tortuous and confusing paper work, back logs due to various quotas and processing delays at US Citizenship and Immigration Service (USCIS).

    Several categories of EB immigrant visa numbers have been unavailable (�retrogressed�) since the fall of 2005. Because our immigrant petitions are tied to the sponsoring employer, for many of us these delays have led to indentured servitude. Our professional prospects, job mobility and potential opportunities for entrepreneurship have been shattered.

    For the past several decades, the US Department of State (DOS) has been publishing advisories known as visa bulletins once a month to announce the availability of immigrant .visa numbers. On June 13, 2007, after a gap of nearly two years, DOS announced that all EB visa numbers would be �current� for the month of July. This meant, irrespective of our �priority date�, all of us were made eligible to apply for some interim immigration benefits. This �priority date� refers to the date when our labor certification (documentation verifying no US citizen worker was available for a given job) had been filed.

    This announcement by DOS on 6/13/2007 would not have led to immediate green card for most of us; but at least it would have ensured us interim benefits such as job mobility, some freedom from the employer, work authorization for our spouses and a travel authorization known as �advance parole�. This authorization would allow us to travel outside US without fear of not being able to re-enter the country.

    We spent thousands of dollars in legal fees, immigration medical exams, vaccinations, blood tests, x-rays and getting various supporting documents ready to file our immigrant petitions to USCIS. It has been an agonizing two weeks for us. Some of us to had to fly in our spouses from our native countries. To our shock and dismay, on the morning of July 2nd 2007, USCIS announced that EB visa numbers were not available and all our petitions would be rejected. Within a span of 2 weeks, to be precise -in 12 working days- USCIS claims to have approved 60,000 EB immigrant visa petitions. This unprecedented rapid action of USCIS has led to exhaustion of all the available visa numbers for this fiscal year. Meanwhile it is prognosticated that in the next fiscal year which begins on October 1, 2007 our plight and delays would actually worsen.

    Interestingly USCIS has never processed so many applications this fast, and it is unclear why they did not convey this potential exhaustion of visa numbers to DOS before June 13, 2007.

    For the legal skilled immigrants this has been a rather traumatizing and disheartening experience.

    We sincerely seek immediate congressional/ legislative remedial measures which would
    (1)Reduce the enormous backlogs of green card petitions of legal skilled immigrants
    (2)Ensure and enable USCIS not to reject our immigrant visa petitions and give us interim benefits of a pending immigrant visa petition.We make this sincere request on this Independence Day with the hope that people who played by the rules will be rewarded.

    Yours Sincerely,

    for your efforts

    07-29 10:36 AM
    Thanks a lot for your reply.

    I had completed my BSc in computer science with 3 years & also completed my Masters(MCA) in computer science with 3 years.(both from India)

    Total I have 6 years(3 yrs bachelors + 3 yrs masters) of education/qualification in Computer Science.

    My labor has been approved & in that it is mentioned, position requires Masters degree.

    Do I qualify for EB2 category?
    I already filled I-140 in March 2008 under EB2.

    I will really appreciate your response.


    To answer your question I will have to go through all your I-140 documents. What did your academic evaluation and experiential evaluation stipulate.

    07-03 10:43 AM
    My case details:

    Visa on the passport up until Feb 2009
    6 year term ending on Feb 2010
    Date on I94 in passport is Feb 2010

    I140/I485 concurrently applied on July 07

    Currently have EB3 I-140 filed based on Substitute Labor at NSC.

    Questions -
    1. If my I-140 case gets picked up AFTER Feb 2009 (less than 365 days of H1 6 year term ending) and is denied (God forbid!), will I be eligible to file for a post 6 year H1 extension? Since this is Labor Sub, the labor doesn't have my name on it.
    2. Can I file for a new EB2 PERM at that time and get an extension based on that (H1 6 year ending term < 365 days at that time)?
    3. As a backup, can I apply for EB2 PERM NOW for a different position from the same company? How will it affect my pending EB3-140?

    Thanks in advance

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