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  • rahulpaper
    06-26 08:33 PM
    Ok, if the Fragomen page is the source of this rumor: can someone who is a Fragomen client ask their attorney about what's going on here. That might help clarify things a bit. (Given that they are the largest immigration law firm, there's bound to be many IV members for whom Fragomen is preparing documents.)


    Please Please Please ask the lawyer you are working with.....





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  • meridiani.planum
    09-23 04:56 PM
    the bailout amount of 700billion shows you how deep in trouble the market is.
    How many do you estimate will really buy a home if there is a law like this.
    Do you have any survey, any real study with proper numbers?? If its 1000 people, its not going to be worth the trouble for them. If its 20,000 real commitments, then we are talking... With downpayments of 250k and mortages for the rest, we are soon talking some pretty decent numbers here (assuming bay area kind of home prices)

    Also you mentioned IV is discussing this. Do you mean core IV team is officially involved in a campaign or is this just ur own initiative.





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  • smuggymba
    07-21 07:00 PM
    A guy approached me in Walmart (he had nothing in his cart) and said - are you from india? Where do you work? Where do u live? What's you fone number.......all this happened in a matter of 2 mins. We has just moved to a new city and thought he is a nice guy and gave our phone number.............BIG MISTAKE....got a fone call 3 days later to talk about a business plan............OMG...worst hr of my life.

    Then I met one couple in their 40s in IKEA and they said - I've see you before....it immediately struck to me and I said - Are you from quickstar............ROFL.

    These ppl are a pain. Avoid Amway/Quixtar and any pyramid ponzi scheme.

    People like these give desis a bad name. Ignore them.





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  • sweet_jungle
    07-04 12:28 AM
    do we just need to access it?

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  • byeusa
    07-10 10:59 AM
    Dear Friends, I had it... I am moving to Canada in the next 2 months to work for guess who? Microsoft. Came to USA in 1997 for my masters, worked at Legato, Documentum and Opentext. Had to restart my GC twrice, once as the company laid me off and next for career progression. GC is still years years away. Interviewed with MSFT last month and got an offer to work in their Enterprise Collaboration team. MSFT looked at the visa mess I was in and offered me to work in Vancouver. I get my Canadian GC in 6 months and my wife can work from day one. I am abandoning my US dream for good;guess I would be satisfied with touching my 4 year old son's American passport.

    I worked for a canadian company in US and now would be working for a US company in Canada. This is globalization. True Globalization. Any for those whiners belonging to IEEE and its propoganda machine, I would like to mention that I drew salries which were above way above the norm. I am sure I would be drawing more than 2 of his programmers combined. Ron- ask your folks to learn to compete and update their skills. They probably studied studied 'history of mathematics' as a math subject in high school instead of calculus. They were happy that they had the coolest Nintendo games while many like me were burning the midnight old figuring out data structures at Berkeley.

    I hope Berney Sanders and his club of the CIR days are hearing the developments. Berney, fix the broken education system for job protection rather than building fences to prevent legal workers to come to this gifted country. More companies will leave for nearshore if the mess continues. Fix the system by closing the H1B loopholes that a small percentage of companies are exploiting. Don't bad mouth the H1B system which has given you so much talent that you could have never groomed, the talented individuals who have contributed to the society, social security system and what not. Patch the holes in the fence, do not erect a higher fence for which people need to pay $ 5000 to cross. And by the way if you have the inclination and the time- fix the broken LEGAL High Skilled immigration system.





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  • mchundi
    02-19 04:49 PM
    What you are talking here is the Eb1-EA category.. and not the general EB1 category..

    The EB1 Category is primarily meant for inter company transfers. Most of the people who qualify to get GC under this category come to US through the inter company transfer route and are primarily on L1-A work visa. Folks under L1-A do not require a labor certification and directly file I-140 /485 unlike people who come on L1-b visa which is also inter company transfer and requires a person to file a labor certification in US and then file GC under Eb2 or Eb3 as the case may be.

    It�s surprising that Eb1 is current for India. Going by the facts.. the top 3 IT companies had shipped most of their project folks infact every other person to US under L1-A in the last few years when H1-b was under scrutiny for these companies. Most of these people who came under L1-A should have applied for GC under Eb1 which should have retrogressed the dates for EB1 also. The only logical reason for this that these companies are being very selective in doing GC now unlike in the past when a lot of people had got GC under this category.. and the date for EB1 for India had retrogressed in beginning of 2006..

    That apart the other reason why this category is current is that most of the staffing companies aka.. body shoppers cannot use this route to get people to US.. because they need to have full-fledged profitable operations overseas�. and the person being sponsored should have atleast worked for 365 days outside US for the company. The consulates do a complete check before giving an authorization under L1-A or L1-B category..
    How many of the top indian IT companies file GC's for their employees?:rolleyes:



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  • vdlrao
    07-25 07:55 PM
    See we came to know from our calculations there are about 10 times increase in EB2 India visas. So that means we are getting visas of 10 years in a single year!!!!!. But theres not much change in the demand of EB2. The demand is amost same as of the previous years. But the supply has increased to 10 times. So in two years, 2008 and 2009, we are getting of 20 years visas. So assuming there were no spill overs, and 20 years from now means in 2028 , wouldn't it be possible to clear off all the EB2s (with out spill overs) with the PDs on or before 2008. So does it make any sense of EB2 getting close to current very soon with the spill overs.





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  • tikka
    07-03 10:22 PM
    Hi Guys,

    Can you please post Media Links on this issue .. (CNN, ... etc) Thanks


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    http://www.wesh.com/money/13616272/detail.html


    http://www.edmontonsun.com/News/Worl...08500-sun.html


    http://www.kswo.com/Global/story.asp?S=6740337


    http://www.onelocalnews.com/howellti...news&id=129492


    http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/...ow/2170349.cms

    http://www.foxnews.com/wires/2007Jul...nCards,00.html



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  • sri1309
    09-23 07:23 AM
    I would still puruse removing quotas unconditionally. Not everyone will want to buy a house here. We can always propose buying houses will help fix housing crisis, but that shouldnt be a must.
    Instead, I would suggest pay $5K or $10K to expedite it. I am sure many people want to take this. If we are talking about 500,000 people, then with a $5K premium processing, it will generate $2,500,000,000. Is that 2.5 billion.. Not bad. This step wioll not hurt many.

    Sri.





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  • minimalist
    05-12 12:12 AM
    I wonder what is causing people to say this water is for Kanndiga's. This state is only for Marathas.
    Water issues always arise when the stae above tries to have as much as it can with no regard to the sates below. Instead of politicians in Karnataka thinking we should play fair, they stoke the regional sentiments saying we will give our lives to protect Kannadiga interests. Same story with every state where there are enough gullible people to assume that they are fighting for their right. As long as they have fish to bite the race/ethnicity/language/caste cards, they will do it.
    If you can't find anything to be proud of about India, then I don't know what to say.

    I am following the discussion. The reason I mentioned about Maratha issue is to bring attention to the fact that I have issue with the segregation on basis of regional/ethnicity and not against Tamilians specifically.

    Remember this is 2009. If that doesn't answer your question on why shouldn't compare Bangladesh with Srilanka, nothing ever will. (You can wake up the person who is sleeping , but you can't wake up some one who is pretending to be sleeping.)

    I am an Indian and my native tongue is not Tamil. I donot consider the issue in Srilanka as Tamil issue. I don't consider it as Indian issue either. I consider it as Srilankan issue.

    Hope this addresses some of your questions.

    Originally Posted by minimalist
    ---For one second hold on your patriotism for India. What kind of greatness did you find in India? Supreme court orders to share the water between TN and Karnadaka. But state of karnataka don't obey the court order. Everytime TN has to beg for water. Same is true with Kerala. Bihari, peoples can not go and work in Maharastra; It is shame that happens in same country. why Bihar to Maharastra? You can not bring the TN labors just live 2 km from kerala border to work in tea estate in Kerala where communist has strong union to protest the job taken away by other state labors. Here we are talking about restriction on H1B. It is just two examples of millions of social, economical, political problems in India.

    ...
    -----Are you following what we are discussing? We are not talking about Maratha for Marathi or Tamilnadu for Tamils.


    ----May we know why one should not compare India's role in Bangladesh with SL?.

    The problem with SL issue, most of the Indians consider this issue as a "Tamil" issue rather than "Indian" issue.Thats why, though severity and number of life lost in SL is much greater than bangladesh, people ask this type of question.



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  • another one
    12-13 02:00 PM
    Since SC has already decided on the matter, does this rest this discussion?


    Here is what the Supreme Court said:
    http://supreme.justia.com/us/426/67/case.html

    "The fact that all persons, aliens and citizens alike, are protected by the Due Process Clause does not lead to the further conclusion that all aliens are entitled to enjoy all the advantages of citizenship or, indeed, to the conclusion that all aliens must be placed in a single homogeneous legal classification. For a host of constitutional and statutory provisions rest on the premise that a legitimate distinction between citizens and aliens may justify attributes and benefits for one class not accorded to the other; and the class of aliens is itself a heterogeneous multitude of persons with a wide-ranging variety of ties to this country.
    In the exercise of its broad power over naturalization and immigration, Congress regularly makes rules that would be unacceptable if applied to citizens. The exclusion of aliens and the reservation of the power to deport have no permissible counterpart in the Federal Government's power to regulate the conduct of its own citizenry. The fact that an Act of Congress treats aliens differently from citizens does not in itself imply that such disparate treatment is "invidious."
    ...
    The real question presented by this case is not whether discrimination between citizens and aliens is permissible; rather, it is whether the statutory discrimination within the class of aliens - allowing benefits to some aliens but not to others - is permissible."

    The SC concluded that the statutory discrimination within the class of aliens is permissible.





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  • Legal
    07-25 02:37 PM
    Do you guys remember how many visas USCIS processed within the Last few days of June 2007 ( I remember it was around 20k) just to make sure they exhaust the Visa numbers and rollback the Visa Bulletin?

    If it's possible for them to complete as many applications within a short span of time,it means they are capable of processing the applications faster...

    Now due to more hiring they might process all the available visas by the end of the year.

    Not that I'm having hopes of me getting 485 approved based on my PD, but just to put things in perspective....

    We'll see once we hit Aug 1st......

    Baseline average approvals have been 9000+ per month......read this link.

    http://www.ilw.com/articles/2007,0716-lee.shtm

    Details Leaking Out on July Visa Chart Fiasco Show Extraordinary and Legally Questionable Steps by U.S.C.I.S. to Exhaust Visa Numbers to Protect Fee Hike Collections
    by Alan Lee, Esq.
    More details came to light today as the New York Times reported that immigration officials said that employees were put to work both days last weekend at service centers in Texas and Nebraska, and that 25,000 applications were processed in the final 48 hours before Monday's deadline. ]


    This means that given the statutory authority to approve 140,000 numbers per year, the agency in the seven years has averaged 113,901 completed cases per year, or 9,492 approvals per month. ...........

    Department of State could say that sudden backlog reduction efforts by Citizenship and Immigration Services offices during the past month had resulted in the use of almost 60,000 employment numbers constitutes a phenomenon attributable solely to overtime work at the service centers during the last weekend and the cutting of corners on security as seen in the New York Times article.



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  • syzygy
    02-12 11:08 PM
    The good reason is if USCIS was sued and something happened in our favor, the lawyers would lose us from their rugs.

    Please all contact your lawyers and AILA why they have not filed a class action lawsuits yet for us?

    I can't think of a good reason why they have not till now. We will know if class action lawsuit is a good idea or a bad idea.





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  • pointlesswait
    09-23 09:50 AM
    this is totally lame idea!
    immigration policy is a social and an economic issue..not just economics..
    They dont want too many ppl from one country ..that is the reason for 7% quota...why cant you digest that fact...
    we can fight injustice if we feel we are being treated in an unfair manner..
    but this carrot-and stick approach will back fire...

    i know many who have bought homes even when they were on H1...
    you must be really creative to link EB GC and purchasing a house!



    As completely unrelated these two issues are (from a law maker's perspective) on a normal day, these are possibly those times when each of these issues can help the other.

    IV has been discussing about the possibility of one for two solution (partial). The idea is to request congress to exempt EB applicants & their dependents from numerical limits of the Immigrant visas, if they buy a home. It is my belief that market sentiment is the most important thing in any financial market(s) and the housing prospects look pretty bleak. There are lot of members in the EB community that have NOT bought their own home, even though they could afford one because of the uncertainty with EB GC. IV's idea is to bridge the financial committees and judiciary committees in the House/Senate and see if corresponding Chairman/Ranking members are willing to listen. Things are moving so fast with the 700bn USD bail out plan and we will NOT have time to do things the normal way, through our counsel. We have to present this idea to the corresponding staff members of key members of congress (see list below) and see if this gets traction now or going forward.

    Please do not bring EB-5 discussion/comparison here. The proposed partial solution is different from EB-5 in that EB-5 investors invest money and we are investing in our future with a genuine intention of making USA our permanent home.


    If you already have a home, thats fine. Any such legislation will reduce the wait times in EB categories and we need housing markets to rebound for a safer economy before the ripple effects are felt every where.

    Who to write to

    Staff members(Chief of Staff, Legislative LA, Financial LA, Legislative Director) of Chairman/Ranking members of House/Senate Judiciary committee & Finance/Banking committee, Staff members of your representative and your senators. Please find staff members of the committees in the spreadsheet (http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pptN-jEpAiyd3snslhPjBfw).

    You can find your representative & senator staff members on this website (http://www.outsourcecongress.org/outsource/congress/schstaffers.html).

    Please use valid email addresses and NOT fictitious/junk mail. It undermines the whole purpose and our emails will be flagged by mail scanners / spam checkers as some thing similar to famous Nigeria bank account scams.


    Email Subject: Proposal to alleviate current US Housing/economic crisis

    Content/Message

    SUMMARY

    This proposal alleviates the current US economic crisis, by motivating the US high skilled, legal immigrant workers to purchase homes. The size of this immigrant population is approximately 800,000 individuals. This effort if successful would inject up to US$ 20Billion approximately into the economy (approximately US$ 100 Billion in houses sold across the country) , while at the same time directing this money into the root cause of the economic crisis � the illiquidity of the national housing market. The above calculation is done
    assuming a median US home price of $212,400 and buyers making a down-payment of 20% of the cost of the home. Roughly estimating 400,000 buyers.

    BACKGROUND

    Undoubtedly, we are all devastated by the shake up on Wall Street in the past 15 days. Experts agree that the underpinning problem is the housing crisis caused by sub-prime mortgage loans. Many of us, who cannot afford our monthly mortgage payments are losing homes and putting them up for sale and foreclosure, which further adds to the crisis. At the same time, most of the Employment-based (EB) immigrant community would like to purchase homes and make the United States a permanent home for their families. These EB immigrants however, are living in a state of limbo, mostly in rental apartments because of the delays and uncertainties involved with the EB immigration procedure. The wait times in EB categories are exacerbated by the delays in processing by USCIS, even though eligible applicants have filed for Permanent Residency also known as Adjustment of Status. Such processing delays have resulted in the wastage of 218,000 immigrant visa numbers (Page 52 of USCIS Ombudsman Annual report 2007). The current Department of State visa bulletin shows 7+ years of wait times in certain categories. We strongly believe that legislation can be worked out in such a way that the housing markets all over the country can move towards recovery, while at the same time motivating the Green Card applicants to catalyze this recovery.

    It should be noted that this proposal by no means brings more immigrant workers into the US. The workers in the EB, skilled category are already present in the US, doing skilled jobs that no US worker is available to do. They are part of the long queue of backlogged cases that USICIS will eventually process; however, this wait can take years and in that case could not be used as a tool to minimize the course of the current economic crisis.

    SOLUTION

    Congress can pass legislation that exempts EB green card applicants and their dependents from the numerical limits of visa numbers, provided applicant(s) have bought a home making 20% down payment on the sale price of the home, for a time period deemed necessary by the congress.


    How can Employment based Immigrants help alleviate the housing problem?

    (1) Employment based immigrants are highly skilled and are employed in occupations such as Software, IT, Health care, Energy, Finance, Education and Research & Development across the United States.

    (2) Average income of these individuals/households is around 65,000/130,000 USD.

    (3) All these Employment based immigrants have gone through Department of Labor�s recruiting process, which certifies that there is no willing, able and qualified US Citizen to do the job.

    (4) Most of the Employment based immigrants have excellent credit history and good source of income to make the payments needed for their home mortgage.

    (5) By requiring a 20% down payment from this group of buyers, Congress can directly channel this money to where it is need most � at the banks.

    (6) Employment based green card applicants have been living in the United States for 6-8 years. Many of them have US graduate degrees in their fields of expertise. These applicants are well versed with the American culture and will not change the cultural landscape.

    (7) Financial burden on US government and treasury will be reduced drastically if the glut of houses in the market decreases.


    As a member of the community that wants to make the US its permanent home, I want to contribute to a solution that helps USA and US during these tough times. I sincerely believe that the 30 year commitment on mortgages by Employment based immigrants in the housing market, backed by solid, risk free mortgages can turn the down ward spiral in the housing market into a upward spiral.

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  • Macaca
    07-03 09:01 PM
    I will need everyone's input since I don't know all issues.
    Titles

    "Immigration scandal goes unnoticed" or "USCIS drama and tantrum to lessen workload" or "Is this legal?" or "Resignations due at USCIS" or "Foul Play synonym USCIS Play" or GOVT "AGENCIES SHORT CIRCUIT A MILLION HOPES" or "The US govt. does a number on High Skilled Immigrants" or "Legal immigrants and the prison of USCIS" or "Door slams shut for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants in the US" or "US closes the door for highly skilled LEGAL immigrants" or "US isolates highly skilled legal immigrants" or "Broken Legal immigration system harmful to US competitiveness" or "Legal Immigration system in shambles" or "Flip-Flop: DOS & USCIS in cahoots?" or "USCIS betrays thousands of hopeful"

    Retrogression in employment based (EB) legal permanent resident (= GC) process

    Skilled tax paying immigrants
    Adjustment of Status (AOS) is last stage in EB GC process

    AOS application requirements

    Application requires

    Medical

    increase in (hard to get) appointments across United States
    Some had to take MMR vaccine and hence postpone their plans to have kids by 3-6 months as recommended by NIH. (newbee7)

    Birth certificate

    request for documentation in country of origin


    Requires applicant and dependents (spouse + children) to be in country.

    Some applicants and/or dependents had to fly in to be able to apply. (chanduv23)

    2-3 days to prepare forms

    Applicants changed their schedules to submit forms

    Cost of applying

    Application Fee

    I-765 (Application for Employment Authorization) $180
    I-485 (Application for Adjustment of Status to register as Permanent Resident)
    ($225 for applicaiton below 14 and over 80 (Should check on this)) $ 325
    I-131 (Application for Advance Parole / Travel Document) $170 -
    Biometric Recording Fees (Finger Printing, etc) $70
    Total $745

    Lawyer Fee $1000+
    Others

    Medical $250+
    Pictures $30-40
    Postage $50
    Misc $50
    2 Days off Work
    Overseas travel to fill form


    Looks like only $380+ is lost per applicant.

    Need good estimate on #dependents!

    Benefits of AOS application

    provides Employment Authorization (EAD) that

    allows applicant to change employers 180 days after filing AOS, if the new job is the same as the one they based their positions/original GC applications on. This is very important for applicants, who are bound to a particular employer for 6+ years due to GC processing delays.
    allows spouse to get out of the house and contribute to American economy.
    eliminates the need for continually renewing temporary skilled visa

    A 21+ year old child can not be filed with primary applicant. However, once AOS is filed the child is "safe" regardless of how long USCIS takes to approve AOS. (My son turn 21 in mid-January 2008: darslee)
    provides Advanced Parole (AP) for travel without visa -> saves Embassy overhead
    application processing, which includes name checking that can take 1+ year, can be done while waiting for GC #.
    USCIS gets a better load estimate for load balancing.

    What happened

    Applicants started filling forms on June 13th
    Some applicants mailed forms on June 29th
    USCIS announced on July 2 that it will not accept forms recieved on or after July 2

    Why does it hurt

    Waiting in line for 6+ years due to previous GC processing delays
    Very little chance of legislative relief for a long time.
    Rejected June filers can not re-file.
    Some applicants did not file in June (due to prior engagements) because they had the option of filing in July.
    $'s lost on re-applying

    Lawyers who charged $1000+ for filing will not refund service fee and charge for additional processing
    Medical will not be valid after 1 year and photos will not be valid after 6 months.

    estimated expenses for at least 100,000 applicants is $6,000+ million in filing fees, medical examination expenses, incidental expenses such as travel, photocopying, phone calls, courier, etc., not including the 2-3 days of preparation time expended by each family as well as lost productivity experienced by applicants’ businesses due to absence from work
    Fees increasing 66% starting Aug 1 2007; should consider July applicants under old rate
    USCIS which is supported 90% by application fee should pay some attention to applicants
    Special cases

    I applied for H1B extension when my PD was current. Since my PD was current, I got 1 year extension. However, I could not apply for AOS. Now, I have to re-apply for H1B extension after 1 year. (??)
    I could not apply in July. I had planned overseas trip on July 8th. What happens if my date becomes current before I return? (andyny73)


    Individual trauma and stress

    Thousands of individuals and businesses rely on the monthly bulletins to prepare and plan for the submission of applications. This update sets a terrible precedent, and undermines this nation’s efforts to foster legal and orderly immigration.
    Patience is not just a virtue but a way of life for millions of legal immigrants who have been living in US for 6+ years. Besides everyday stress of job, mortgage, health and education of their children, they live with the added suspense of their GC application. (from vasa)
    We are raising families here, our everyday life is no different from any other AMERICAN middle class family with same expectations and hopes. So it is not easy to presume that we can pull out or get out of this situation and return to our home countries. (from vasa)

    The biggest loss is trust: Can we trust and rely on visa bulletin to prepare AOS application?
    Applicants will always live in fear untill they receive receipt #

    USCIS history

    376, 345 GCs went unused from 1992-2006 mainly due to USCIS inefficiency
    According to page 35 of ombudsman report, This loss of visas is due to:

    gaps in USCIS’ accounting of cases;
    USCIS not processing enough pending applications in a timely manner; and
    the imprecise art of predicting workflows and demand surges at three federal agencies:

    Department of Labor (DOL) (approves labor certifications);
    USCIS (processes immigration petitions after completion of labor certifications and processes green card applications for applicants in the United States); and
    DOS (establishes priority dates and processes immigrant visas from applicants outside the United States).



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  • dallasdude
    05-29 03:50 PM
    No one is arguing that lot of EB1Cs do not deserve the classification, however; that is not the root cause why we are backlogged. You might get 1000more visas , you would think but at the end of the day , you will close that gateway as well. 1000 EB1 visas are not a major relief for us. And if you think that will resolve the issue, you are mistaken.

    There is a political decision to backdate the country dates and hence even if you take up Eb1 issue, they will close that line as well, but those visas will not translate into more visas for us. Bureaucrats can come up with gazillion excuses as to why spillover did not happen such as "there is now demand for religious workers".

    So do not deviate the focus of the community. Our purpose is to get our GC, not stop someone else from getting a GC. Thinking otherwise mean , divisive and selfish mentality! or plain jealousy. Has anyone stopped you from working for Cognizant?

    We need transparency and better predictability in the whole process. Someone said Oppenheim knows more than many of us. My question is why should we trust him? Shouldent there be a system that gives clear picture to everyone?


    Bottomline is we need to choose our battles! EB1 is not the battle we need to fight right now.

    Hope you're not one of the EB1 fellas. I understand your point, but we just cant ignore what these primitives are doing and abusing the EB1 category.



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  • chanduv23
    03-16 02:05 PM
    Are you from India,,if yes, think again,,,the EB3 2003 PD may not buy u much,,u may be well know trying to go for perm and 140 with current EB2...eb3 for india is a black hole,,,i hope u know what a black hole is,,,its kinda dangerous!!

    Yes, EB3 2003 is of no use except for h1b extensions, so consider taking the job only if you see something good other than a sub labor





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  • yabadaba
    07-04 08:57 AM
    also sent it to the drudge report...if he picks it up other talk show hots will pick it up too.





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  • ramus
    07-03 04:06 PM
    Anybody have any contact with NPR.. Can we just 10 mins somewhere..





    BharatPremi
    12-13 04:43 PM
    Yes, we should explore this more

    1) Whether we can really challenge this into US SC within US Constitutional
    framework?

    2) Whether we can really challenge this into International Courts?





    gg_ny
    02-13 08:03 AM
    im willing to pay 1000's of dollars in lawyer's fees..

    this im intersted in more than sending letters.

    pls explore class action suit.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/02/11/AR2008021103132.html



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