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  • fairman
    08-17 11:01 AM
    The VIP culture and the sense of entitlement in India is sickening :mad: I would understand if George Fernandes had raised a fuss since he was travelling as a diplomat, but SRK is pure dung!! FFS, he is there only to promote his movie - like some one mentioned here, the world doesnt come to an end if he is delayed by an hour or if the movie flops or doesnt even see the light of day.

    SRK is a god in North India. This cannot be done to SRK. President Obama should have
    come to airport and intervened .





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  • eb3_nepa
    10-23 01:19 PM
    Best of luck!

    Guys I am NOTTT looking to subsitute my labor or anything of the sort. I just want to read through the docs to see what exactly is labor substitution all about. I mean i have read a WHOLE lot about it especially ON here and was wondering how EXACTLY this whole process works.

    If anyone knows any website that explains how LC substitution works please post a link on here.





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  • Desertfox
    07-24 07:59 PM
    This is the most accurate evaluation I have ever found on this forum regarding how USCIS works! :D

    For USCIS, 2007 was "let's reduce some backlog in EB3-category" year.
    It looks like 2008 is " let's reduce some backlog in EB2-category" year.
    On both occassions they hid their plans in right in front of us, and said "gotcha" to every one- AILA, IV prognosticators and Ron Gotchers of this world.

    I doubt USCIS will openly Re-revise the horizontal spill over policy. If they do that they may be challenged again forcing them to Re-Re-revise which will make them look even more stupider than they do now.

    There are other means by which USCIS can deliver justice- mafia style- but within the current law. They need additional help from DOS,DOL, etc.

    examples- (1) Generally sit on EB-2 adjudications, delay them and say there are unused EB2 numbers and allow them to spill over to EB-3

    (2) Clamp down even further on PERM - stretch it from 8 months to 36 months for every applicant including EB2-ROW, make even more unused numbers available to clear backlogs.


    p.s
    I do not harbor any ill-will towards ROW or any other category. I honestly think above things are possible. :)





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  • snathan
    01-21 06:27 PM
    I got the below email from multiple friends. I don't know what is the source, who wrote this analysis because there is no links. I did NOT mean to spread the fear. Just sharing the contents unaltered.

    ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    However, this is how many could read RECENT (Jan 8, 2010) actions / announcement by USCIS towards Consulting companies, which engages or merely places their employees at the client sites for various projects.

    � No new H1B application will be approved, as per the new guidelines provided USCIS on Jan 08, 2010 memorandum � for 3rd Party Consulting company.
    � No new H1B extension/stamping will be approved, as per the new guidelines provided USCIS on Jan 08, 2010 memorandum � for 3rd Party Consulting company.
    � If an employee has H1B approved or extension approved, and if he/she comes back to US from a vacation or from an emergency, he/she would be deported back to his/her home country from the Port of Entry (PoE) � for 3rd Party Consulting company.


    Why?

    Because of 2 recent events:

    1) USCIS gave new memorandum (which is now guidelines for USCIS professionals working on the H1B petitions/extensions) on Jan 08th, 2010. (Attached the PDF file for the memorandum).
    2) Recently (Jan 2010) several H1B Employees were sent back (in some forum, its mentioned � all of them) to their home country from Newark, NJ and JFK, NY Port of Entry � these were the H1B employees, who went to spend Christmas/New Year vacation to their home countries.


    What does the memorandum mention, specifically, about 3rd Party Consulting companies?

    Link to the memorandum (PDF attached) � http://www.uscis.gov/USCIS/Laws/Memoranda/2010/H1B%20Employer-Employee%20Memo010810.pdf


    Employer-Employee Relationship:

    As per the memorandum, some previous H1B Law defines, the definition of an �US Employer�. Somewhere in that definition (Page 2 of memo), it mentions the word �Employer-Employee relationship�. Till now, it seems that there was no clear guidance on what kind of relationship was considered having Employer-Employee relationship. So, it was being, probably, interpreted independently or ambiguously. Now, on Jan 8th, 2010, USCIS has published this memorandum for TRAINING USCIS OFFICIALS about understanding, Employer-Employee relationship. The memorandum seems to have been prepared with a clear understanding about it, along with the specific EXAMPLES.



    Memorandum has given few specific examples, which would QUALIFY for having Employer-Employee relationship, on Page 4-5 of the Memo � including the nature of the job/business. On Page 5-6, memorandum gives few specific examples, which would NOT QUALIFY for having Employer-Employee relationship. Third Party Placement / �Job-Shop� (better version of �Body-shop�, probably) is NOT QUALIFIED for meeting Employer-Employee Relationships � meaning, 3rd Party placement (which most of the small consulting companies do) doesn�t meet H1B requirement, as defined by the law � meaning for this job, the new H1B or Extension or Stamping petitions CANNOT be approved!! Period !!




    This is how memorandum has identified 3rd Party Placements and in Bold letters, why it disqualifies for the H1B petitions (comments are in Red):



    �The petitioner is a computer consulting company (which is what all small consulting do). The petitioner has contract with numerous outside companies in which it supplies these companies with employee to fulfill specific staffing needs. The specific positions are not outlined in the contract between the petitioner and the third-party company but are staffed on an as-needed basis (this is nothing but, Service Agreement between the petitioner and the mid-vendor!). The beneficiary is a computer analyst (which is what many small consulting company�s employee are). The beneficiary has been assigned to work for the third-party company to fill a core position to maintain the third-party company�s payroll (this nothing but, Mid-Vendor�s or so-called Prime-Vendor�s or Consulting Partner�s Revenue). Once placed at the client company, the beneficiary reports to a manager who works for the third-party company (as it happens, when Consulting partner hires employee as a contractor). The beneficiary does not report to the petitioner for work assignments, and all work assignments are determined by the third-party company (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). The petitioner does not control how the beneficiary will complete daily tasks, and no propriety information of the petitioner is used by the beneficiary to complete any work assignments (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). The beneficiary�s end-product, the payroll (payroll of mid-vendor/prime vendor/consulting partner), is not in any way related to the petitioner�s line of business, which is computer consulting. The beneficiary�s progress reviews are completed by the client company, not the petitioner (petitioner just runs pay-rolls!). [Petitioner Has No Right to Control; No Exercise of Control].�



    Right to Control:

    Supreme Court has stated the definition of Employer-Employee Relationship (Page 3 of Memo), and there it was mentioned to have �Right to Control� over the work of the employee by the employer. From the entire memo, it sounds that Right control is well-established, ONLY WHEN, at least one supervisor from the petitioner�s company works with the beneficiary at the end-client site, and supervises beneficiary�s day-to-day work. So, big Consulting companies such as Wipro, Infosys, Accenture, Deloitte etc. will be good, as they would meet �Right to Control� and that way, they will satisfy H1B requirement by law, and their petitions for similar 3rd party consulting work, will be APPROVED, but not in case of, small consulting companies!! This is because, big consulting companies such as Accenture � have their entire or partial team � along with managers etc. � working at the same client site, where the beneficiary would be working, so they could supervise their work and so exercise control over their work etc., but that cannot be the case with the small consulting � because, their actual business has been, so far, to place employees and run pay-roll � not to get the client projects!




    Why one could think that there are slim chances for this memorandum to get reversed in favor of small consulting companies?

    This memorandum took care of big consulting companies such as Wipro, Infosys, Cognizant, Accenture etc. � meaning, these companies and their employees are NOT impacted. They can travel freely to-and-fro their home country etc. Since, big companies are not impacted, there will not be any big lobbying or oppositions to this memorandum, per say!! There don�t seem to be a platform for small consulting companies to gather and lobby, plus most the small consulting may not get involved, with fear of exposing themselves more to other issues!! So, it might be east to assume that this memorandum is permanent and not temporary. The recent deportation also indicates that the changes like this memorandum is for serious, not just the warning!



    How this memorandum relates to the recent deportation events from NY and NJ airports?



    There seems to be an anticipated link between these 2 events � Memorandum and recent Deportations � kind of an indication about the current level of government scrutiny and seriousness of the H1B program. Hence, there have been advices by others that � each employer and employee should operate by strictly following the H1B program requirements.



    Link to Murthy.com front page posting about this � MurthyDotCom : NewsFlash! Note to H1Bs Traveling to U.S., Working for Consulting Companies (http://www.murthy.com/nflash/nf_h1conc.html)



    What one could predict as happening sooner (trend)?

    � Since, it seems big consulting companies (having their own consulting projects)/full-time end-clients and their beneficiaries are not impacted with these changes � there could be trend � employee moving from small companies to big companies for a better shelter for full-time positions � especially, when small consulting company�s immediate preventions / actions to this memo cannot ensure safety.
    � Big consulting companies could buy small consulting companies or small consulting companies could sell their companies to big consulting companies (having their own consulting projects), to save their employee�s future/transition etc.


    Good Luck my Friends....!!

    Everyone knows what the impact would be...no one coming up with the solutions or ready to fight.



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  • qualified_trash
    10-23 03:23 PM
    Thanks eb3India.

    How does the current company obtain a pre-approved labor? Does it buy the pre-app labour? Or is it SOLELY because someone in the company left (whose labor was approved)?

    I was reading a lot about the controversy about why it should be stopped etc so i was wondering if someone had any documentation on why it was started in the first place and how it works

    Thanks
    a company that has had the LC approved can reuse it for someone else. that is all!!





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  • snathan
    08-17 12:40 PM
    It is not about being treated special. First thing - if you do not go through unnecessary inspection "Does not mean it is special treatment" Lets get the slavery mentality out of us.

    SRK is a visitor to the country and can vouch for himself and not for everyone sitting in that room.

    I am not talking about what SRK is doing. How many time TOI and indian media reported about this. When you were struck at Atlant in 2004 did they report...? no. Did Indian minister condomn that ? no. Why...if the system is absurd...its absurd for everyone or only for SRK?



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  • nfinity
    07-04 08:51 AM
    Dugg the links, posted to the board. What other action items do we have?





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  • deepakd
    07-11 01:24 PM
    BharatPremi,

    Same applies to you.. If you are so crazy about Bharat, what are you doing here.... HEHEHE. Just thought that it was kinda funny statement because of your name....BharatPremi --- :D

    Guys

    On the sameline, I think no one is crazy about anything but material wealth for self.

    Take my example, GOV of India spent lot of money on me so that I get a degree from IIT and here I am in USA salivating over GC dreams.
    If I would be kicked out of USA, I may move to Canada, if I kicked out of Canada then to Australia and it would continue............



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  • snathan
    01-16 12:53 PM
    One truth: Indian employers mistreat their employees. But this is
    You have a choice: Don't join them. It doesn't require a USCIS memo.
    USCIS and scumbags (Hira, Matloff, ...) have absolutely no interest in the welfare of these affected H-1Bs. Their motivation is 100% sadistic.

    >>> Sure so tell the truth to USCIS and tell them that we join them knowing very well what they do but you have no problem with that and hence USCIS should not bother us. What is issue here then ?

    We believe we are targetted unfairly and we are looking what can be done legally. If you are not interested, please ignore this thread or gladly go back to india. DONT DEVIATE FROM TEH SUBJECT. No one is looking here for your advise....please dont bother to ignore us and waste our time. No one is stopping you to go India Please get lost.:mad:





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  • eyeswe
    07-21 04:33 PM
    I think we have met somewhere OR I have seen you somewhere...
    Would you like to be financially independent?
    Are u from XYZ Engg College in Mumbai

    The Amway cheer ...

    ... There is lot of excitement in this room with X,Y,X, A etc.. and this excitement is going all the way to P, Q, R on the phone.. Heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyy, Heyyyyyyy " and folks jump around to show the excitement

    Needless to say I have been in several Amway bait situations. My room mates were Amway folks and we use to have several meetings at my place -- upline, downline used to be the manthra...



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  • voldemar
    04-28 12:38 PM
    Hello all,
    Any news on what happened on the decision on suspension/removal of labor substitution? I searched in google but couldn't find any updates.
    Substitution ban rule got clearance from OMB
    AGENCY: DOL-ETA RIN: 1205-AB42
    TITLE: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity
    STAGE: Final Rule ECONOMICALLY SIGNIFICANT: No
    RECEIVED DATE: 01/26/2007 LEGAL DEADLINE: None
    ** COMPLETED: 04/27/2007 COMPLETED ACTION: Consistent with Change

    Check http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoPackageMain





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  • the_googly
    07-29 09:33 AM
    I expect 1/2 of the approvals to be EB2-I and the rest EB2-C.



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  • sampath
    04-29 12:22 AM
    Can you anyone tell what the lines highlighted below in blue means ?

    ************************************************** ******

    RIN: 1205-AB42 Agenda Cycle: 200610

    Title: Labor Certification for the Permanent Employment of Aliens in the United States; Reducing the Incentives and Opportunities for Fraud and Abuse and Enhancing Program Integrity

    Abstract: The Department of Labor proposed changes to reduce the incentives and opportunities for fraud and abuse related to the permanent employment of aliens in the United States. Among other key changes, the Department is eliminating the current practice of allowing the substitution of alien beneficiaries on applications and approved labor certifications. DOL proposed to further reduce the likelihood of the submission of fraudulent applications for the permanent employment of aliens in the United States by proposing a 45-day deadline for employers to file approved permanent labor certifications in support of a petition with the Department of Homeland Security. The Final Rule expressly prohibits the sale, barter, or purchase of permanent labor certifications or applications, as well as related payments. The proposed rule also addresses enforcement mechanisms to protect program integrity, including debarment with appeal rights. These amendments would apply to employers using both the Application for Alien Employment Certification (Form ETA 750) or the Application for Permanent Employment Certification (Form ETA 9089).

    ************************************************** *******
    i got the above info from the OMB website below -

    http://www.reginfo.gov/public/do/eoViewRule?ruleID=269657





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  • NolaIndian32
    02-13 11:09 AM
    What is ROW and POW, please? I have seen both used in several posts (I am hoping POW is not Prisoner of War:)) Still learning the immigration lingo!



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  • PlainSpeak
    01-13 04:54 PM
    i'll not tell anyone that u'r gcperm.... ok?

    btw, no one is freaked out knowing that u'r gcperm..... i guess no one cares for u....
    Ahh my friend Ron if you are trying to get me to feel bad with your statement i guess no one cares for u.... then all i can say is Better Luck Next Time
    I dont care if anyone cares for me or not peronally or w.r.t. what i have stated in this forum.
    If people abuse that is their problem not mine. Sure i wil lfeel bad but it would be feeling bad for them not feel bad :P
    If people do not agree with me that is also ok since that is their right
    If people do not care for what i am saying that is also ok because the whle idea is that people on thsi forum start thinking about all options (Out of te box solutions)

    And seriopusly my friend if my intention was to convert or sway a whole bunch of people (Which i have no Intention of doing) within a day that would not be much of a challenge right ? because nothing comes for free (read that as without effort) in this country. I believe that is one of the slogans of IV. And guys i just borrowed it so dont hit on me saying i am now using IV slogans for myself

    Peace ...





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  • ssharma
    07-08 09:34 AM
    Is there certain minimum "safe" numbers of days one has to stay with the sponsoring company after getting the EB Green Card.
    In my case I have been working with my employer since Sept-2001 (almost 7 years). My GC labor was started in Dec 485 filed in May and GC approved June 24, 2008.

    I was in the middle of changing jobs using AC21 just before my GC got approved, hence this urgency. How soon can I join some my new job ?

    Thanks for your time.



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  • ujjwal_p
    05-11 07:25 PM
    I never stated that I support LTTE.

    I understand, how intolerant you are. What is wrong in protesting or showing resentment?

    It's not about showing resentment. Being able to protest is a fundamental right in a democracy, unlike a dictatorship which essentially the LTTE is. We do that everyday in India, America and other democratic setups. It's quite clear that you don't understand the basic concept of a pluralistic democracy that India and America stand for. To see what's wrong with what you said, let me quote you back :

    As a Tamil, I too carry the Indian passport with shame and can't wait to see the day when I become a US citizen.


    Now if you don't see anything wrong with that, fair enough. But I do. I don't see resentment there. I see treason. In fact, along with you I'll also probably party when you become a USC. That day will be as happy a time for Indians to not have you around as I'm sure it'll be for you.





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  • gcfriend65
    08-31 10:12 AM
    For the Police certificate at the Indian consulate, do they keep the passport for 45 days i.e. until clearance is received. Or do we get the passport back the same day on which we apply and then the certificate is sent later.


    I am doing my Canadian Immigration myself.

    It is fairly a simple and straightforward process. So my advice is "Do it yourself". Immigration lawyers do normally charge more that $1000 and make mistakes.

    Since it takes around 1.5 years for the entire process to complete, send the application as soon as possible. Dont wait for gathering all the document! That will ensure that you get a early priority date. If more documents are needed, they will ask you. (Most people sent English Proficiency and Police Certificates after submitting the application, though they are required to be part of the initial application)

    I can describe the procedure:

    1. Calculate your points based on the information on Canada Immigration website. If it is more that 67, you are good.

    2. To prove English proficiency, take IELTS test. You need to register for the test as soon as possible since some centers are always full. (Some of my friends who studied in USA skipped IELTS - rather they wrote a letter stating that they are proficient in English as they studied/worked in USA)

    3. Make sure you have the required funds. It's around $13,000 for a 2 member family. (Again check the Canadian Immigration website for accurate info)

    4. Get experience letters if you are claiming experience.

    5. Get Birth Certificates and Police Certificates. If you are an Indian, the link you need to look for is http://www.indianembassy.org/newsite/misc_guide.asp

    6. Though they do ask you to send US FBI Police Certificates, do it later. (They will ask you for updated FBI Police Certificates evenif you submit it earlier)

    7. Fill the forms, attach the documents and send it!!!!


    Visit http://www.canada-city.ca/canada-immigration/ or
    http://www.immigration.ca/discussion/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=4 for further discussions.





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  • Googler
    02-15 12:11 AM
    As I said in the Mocanu thread:

    Btw, apparently the law firm that argued the case for Mocanu and the others was: Orlow, Kaplan and Hohenstein (http://www.orlow.com/index.htm).

    Wonder whether it is worth initiating a conversation about the validity of the legal argument for recapture (Mocanu + Aytes memo + Galvez-Howerton) with them -- they certainly know enough about the details of the name check process; they might need some more details about the 2003-2004 lost EB greencards, but I'd say they are pretty well prepped for all the other details.

    It would be beyond good for the case if we had some EB applicants who filed their 485s in 2003-2004 and are still waiting.





    syzygy
    09-23 02:28 AM
    I have sent close to 10 emails putting subject

    "Proposal to alleviate current US economic crisis"

    I hope I am doing right..





    Green_Always
    08-16 03:52 PM
    By taking on this subject we are providing good coverage for SRK and talking negative about US Immigraiton we are making them corrupt we should not put pressure on them ( US Immigration ) let them do there duty.

    By putting pressure and talking about all these and getting influence from Obama and all is wrong our Indian govt and policies are corrupt and we are pushing these people there now by doing all these things.


    Let us look at our future and Jobs over here. Let SRK resolve his headache himself.

    Note -- I am not against SRK, I like him and I am fan of him and have seen his movies multiple times and I have full respect to him.


    my 2 cents.



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